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lol! Yes, there are so many people who follow smokers around because the love second-hand smoke and CHOOSE to breathe it
Smokers used to be able to smoke in hospitals, offices, malls, grocery stores, and non-smokers (the majority of people) didn't like it. It took an act of Congress to get cigarette ads off TV and regulation to get second hand smoke out of buildings open to the public.
What does the bold bit have to do with the health of non-smokers?
Exactly! I've also been in small towns in the midwest where there was only one motel, and the next town was miles away. It's not always as simple as going to the motel across the street.
You conviniantly leave out the fact that the smoker also has to deal with this. As much as you may want to beleive it, the world does not evolve around you.
If there's only ONE room left in town, a smoker will be mad if it's non-smoking and a non-smoker will be mad if it's a smoking room. Right? Either way somebody will be inconvenienced, so there's no way to make both parties happy... thus we should let the hotel owners decide, and hope they have more than one vacancy at any given time.
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Originally Posted by SamBarrow
Yep, that's pretty much what it comes down to. Who decides? I say the individuals decide - they say the government (or they) decide. They're wannabe tyrants.
what you guys still dont get is that it costs money to deep clean a room to meet non smoking room standards, and that it is very difficult to pass those costs on to everyone in an industry as competitive as the hotel industry. even if hotel owners were the only ones making the decisions, that doesnt change the cost structure. sorry if you dont like it but that is the way things are.
as for hoping that a hotel as more than one vacancy at any given time, hotel owners try to fill every room every night as best they can, because they can maximize revenues. if a hotel room is empty, the cost of that room does not go away, but rather it drags down the revenue of the other rooms. its like a supermarket having to throw out milk when they go past their freshness date. the supermarket still has to bear the cost of the milk they tossed out.
Michigan and Wisconsin have banned smoking in hotels. This happened last year. Jennifer Granholm is an anti-freedom slob and a left wing zealot. It's no wonder that Michigan elected a Republican this time for Governor.
My wife and I recently went on vacation down south. Coming back north we discovered that we couldn't get a smoking room at any hotel in WI or MI.
Why would these states discourage tourism? Tourism is one of Michigan's biggest industries. It's stupid.
If someone smokes in a hotel room -- IT WILL NOT KILL THE FAMILY IN THE NEXT ROOM. Get it Democrats?
Why is it that whenever LIBERALS are in charge ..... AMERICANS lose their FREEDOM?
This is great - personally, I'm glad, because you can ALWAYS tell the room that the smokers have been in...even if they clean it five times over with every cleaning product known to man. The stench never leaves...it's disgusting. I can't figure out why anyone would want their body to smell like that.
The OP has not justified their headline. Why is this smoking issue a liberal issue? The government in both states are 100% controlled by the GOP. If anyone is to be blamed wouldn't be the wingnuts?
what you guys still dont get is that it costs money to deep clean a room to meet non smoking room standards, and that it is very difficult to pass those costs on to everyone in an industry as competitive as the hotel industry. even if hotel owners were the only ones making the decisions, that doesnt change the cost structure. sorry if you dont like it but that is the way things are.
as for hoping that a hotel as more than one vacancy at any given time, hotel owners try to fill every room every night as best they can, because they can maximize revenues. if a hotel room is empty, the cost of that room does not go away, but rather it drags down the revenue of the other rooms. its like a supermarket having to throw out milk when they go past their freshness date. the supermarket still has to bear the cost of the milk they tossed out.
So again, it should be up to the business owner... if they don't want the extra costs of maintaining both smoking & non-smoking rooms, they have ALWAYS had the freedom to be 100% non-smoking instead. Many hotels in CA have been non-smoking for years, but they also have the right to offer both if that's their desire. I don't see why this needs to be a government/state law, and that's all I'm trying to say.
Michigan and Wisconsin have banned smoking in hotels. This happened last year. Jennifer Granholm is an anti-freedom slob and a left wing zealot. It's no wonder that Michigan elected a Republican this time for Governor.
My wife and I recently went on vacation down south. Coming back north we discovered that we couldn't get a smoking room at any hotel in WI or MI.
Why would these states discourage tourism? Tourism is one of Michigan's biggest industries. It's stupid.
If someone smokes in a hotel room -- IT WILL NOT KILL THE FAMILY IN THE NEXT ROOM. Get it Democrats?
Why is it that whenever LIBERALS are in charge ..... AMERICANS lose their FREEDOM?
Where my freedom begins, yours ends. If you want to smoke and kill yourself, be my guest. I don't need to be subjected to pollutants in my room that I am PAYING for.
Isn't it funny? You hear the anti's complain about smoke in hotel rooms or in bars or in the apartment next door, but ya never hear them or see them fanning their noses in casinos, nearly all of which are exempt from indoor smoking bans. Yes, even in Wisconsin.
When it comes time to gamble, smoking suddenly ain't that big a deal for them.
The point is that they can tolerate it when they want to.
Actually, I avoid casinos for that very reason. Since I'm not a gambling addict, it's no hardship. The worst thing for me is to have to walk through a casino to get to someplace else - like my hotel room.
what you guys still dont get is that it costs money to deep clean a room to meet non smoking room standards, and that it is very difficult to pass those costs on to everyone in an industry as competitive as the hotel industry. even if hotel owners were the only ones making the decisions, that doesnt change the cost structure. sorry if you dont like it but that is the way things are.
as for hoping that a hotel as more than one vacancy at any given time, hotel owners try to fill every room every night as best they can, because they can maximize revenues. if a hotel room is empty, the cost of that room does not go away, but rather it drags down the revenue of the other rooms. its like a supermarket having to throw out milk when they go past their freshness date. the supermarket still has to bear the cost of the milk they tossed out.
Your post doesn't even contain the word "government" let alone justify its intervention into a private business matter.
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