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Old 12-25-2011, 05:06 PM
 
Location: In peace, and not dealing with fools
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Yeah, let's just outlaw all bad odors.

You people really don't get it. How shortsighted can you be?
You don't get it. How shortsighted can YOU be?
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Old 12-25-2011, 05:33 PM
 
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Yeah, let's just outlaw all bad odors.

You people really don't get it. How shortsighted can you be?
Bad odor? It's poison.

As a non-smoker, I don't want to be placed in a smoking room where the poison has soaked into the walls, the carpet, the drapes, the bedspread. That poison is emitting into the air for all the breathe it in, even if nobody smoked in the room for the past several days.

It's called third hand smoke.
Third-hand smoke: What are the dangers to nonsmokers? - MayoClinic.com
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Old 12-25-2011, 06:01 PM
 
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Any hotel that requires a deposit of the first night, has a contract to provide that requested room. Either the hotel fulfills this contract or pays punitive charges.
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Your room is reserved but your request may not be available.
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No they don't... again, if you read the fine print, it clearly says "special requests are NOT guaranteed." That legally releases them from being sued, if you arrive and find your requested room isn't available. They have to provide a room of some sort, but it doesn't have to be the one you wanted. Period.
sorry jojan but you are wrong. if you reserve a room with a king size bed, you can request a non smoking room, but the reservation if for a room with a king size bed, not a non smoking king room.
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Old 12-25-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Bad odor? It's poison.

As a non-smoker, I don't want to be placed in a smoking room where the poison has soaked into the walls, the carpet, the drapes, the bedspread. That poison is emitting into the air for all the breathe it in, even if nobody smoked in the room for the past several days.

It's called third hand smoke.
Third-hand smoke: What are the dangers to nonsmokers? - MayoClinic.com



If "third hand smoke" is such a mortal danger, why aren't my kids dead yet? Or, my grandkids? Or, great-grandkids? They ALL have grown up crawling around and playing in my house, which must be ankle deep in "third hand smoke" after 40 years of my wife and I smoking 2 packs a day in it.



(sarcasm on) Third hand smoke! Snort! You suckers will believe anything, won't you? (sarcasm off)
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Old 12-25-2011, 08:07 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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If "third hand smoke" is such a mortal danger, why aren't my kids dead yet? Or, my grandkids? Or, great-grandkids? They ALL have grown up crawling around and playing in my house, which must be ankle deep in "third hand smoke" after 40 years of my wife and I smoking 2 packs a day in it.



(sarcasm on) Third hand smoke! Snort! You suckers will believe anything, won't you? (sarcasm off)
I know, right?? Not to mention, if you enter ANY building more than like 20 years old, chances are it's been smoked in at some point... are people dropping dead like flies, and I'm just not noticing it? Sheesh, the paranoia is getting ridiculous.
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Old 12-25-2011, 08:09 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Bad odor? It's poison.

As a non-smoker, I don't want to be placed in a smoking room where the poison has soaked into the walls, the carpet, the drapes, the bedspread. That poison is emitting into the air for all the breathe it in, even if nobody smoked in the room for the past several days.

It's called third hand smoke.
Third-hand smoke: What are the dangers to nonsmokers? - MayoClinic.com
Sounds like you'll only be happy if smoking is outlawed completely, and all buildings that have ever been smoked inside are demolished. Have you ever rented a home or apartment, or bought a home that wasn't brand new? If so, do you know if any former occupants ever smoked a cigarette in them? And if they were smoked in at some point (even years ago), did you suffer health problems as a result?
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Old 12-25-2011, 08:12 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I stand corrected!
Haha... no problemo. It doesn't really matter in terms of this discussion, but I figured it might help to know my gender in future debates. That's what I get for choosing a neutral screen name!
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Old 12-25-2011, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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sorry jojan but you are wrong. if you reserve a room with a king size bed, you can request a non smoking room, but the reservation if for a room with a king size bed, not a non smoking king room.
If the agreement DOES NOT say anything about non refundable rooms then you have every right to demand a refund if given a smoking room when a non-smoking was requested.

If you used your credit card then you need to dispute the charges and have the credit card company refuse to pay.
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Old 12-25-2011, 08:21 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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And that's really it in a nutshell for many of this type.

Some of course have savior-complexes which cause them to embark on a crusade to restrict the freedoms of others "for their own good." And for others it comes down to "it's all about me and moi rights" not be be inconvienced in any way, nor have to take personal responsibility for their own choices. Instead, they will use the heavy-hand of government to restrict the private property rights of others in order to accomadate their personal likes and dislikes.
Exactly. If they really cared about the health of smokers, they'd be pushing for better education on the dangers of smoking, and/or outlawing it altogether. But they only care about being inconvenienced or annoyed, when it really comes down to it. They also can't claim to be looking out for their own health, when we all know staying at a hotel with smokers won't kill you - and while they ignore other things that actually do put their health and well-being at risk.

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Of course, many of this ilk are just totally shocked when the "health-police" come after their preferences as well. Never seeing the big picture and the connections. Bu..bu...but...fat food or wearing too much perfume in businesses isnt the same as smoking...
Oh man, did you see the uproar when San Francisco put restrictions on Happy Meals at McDonald's? Many people thought Happy Meals were being banned altogether (they were only banning the toys), and that was just unacceptable!! How DARE they take away our right to clog our arteries with fast food? Isn't that the individual's decision to make? Well, yes it is... just as it's my right to damage my lungs with smoke, as long as I'm not blowing it in your face - which I never do.
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Old 12-25-2011, 08:23 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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If the agreement DOES NOT say anything about non refundable rooms then you have every right to demand a refund if given a smoking room when a non-smoking was requested.

If you used your credit card then you need to dispute the charges and have the credit card company refuse to pay.
Not if it says "special requests are not guaranteed" right in the reservation agreement... sorry, but it's not their fault if you fail to read the fine print!
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