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Since when is it the fault of liberals that smoking is now made to be more difficult in this country?
Smoking is a foul, unhealthy, and dangerous habit that is a negative influence on all our lives. It causes serious health problems, drives up the cost of medical care, and presents environmental problems for our citizens.
I agree that I dont want to stay in a hotel that allows smoking in rooms----smoke is not contained----when you walk in the hallways you smell the smoke and it is unpleasant and unhealthy. For those who wish to smoke, talk a walk outside----or if its cold go to your car and puff away.
Why are liberals responsible for trying to make it harder to smoke in hotels??? This is a project and undertaking that provides health benefits and improvements for everyone---libs and conservatives----why does it always come down to an idealogical stance-----slogans and idealogy are now really hurting this nation.
Since when is it the fault of liberals that smoking is now made to be more difficult in this country?
Smoking is a foul, unhealthy, and dangerous habit that is a negative influence on all our lives. It causes serious health problems, drives up the cost of medical care, and presents environmental problems for our citizens.
I agree that I dont want to stay in a hotel that allows smoking in rooms----smoke is not contained----when you walk in the hallways you smell the smoke and it is unpleasant and unhealthy. For those who wish to smoke, talk a walk outside----or if its cold go to your car and puff away.
Why are liberals responsible for trying to make it harder to smoke in hotels??? This is a project and undertaking that provides health benefits and improvements for everyone---libs and conservatives----why does it always come down to an idealogical stance-----slogans and idealogy are now really hurting this nation.
Why is it an ideological issue? Well, because it's not about smoking. Everyone agrees that smoking and secondhand smoke are bad for you. The issue is whether business owners and consumers should be allowed to make their own decisions or government should make their decisions for them.
Why are liberals responsible for trying to make it harder to smoke in hotels??? This is a project and undertaking that provides health benefits and improvements for everyone---libs and conservatives----why does it always come down to an idealogical stance-----slogans and idealogy are now really hurting this nation.
Because without larger principles we are nothing. If everything was evaluated without a focus on the big picture, we wouldn't have a number of the freedoms we have in this country.
It's not about ideology vs logic. It's about big picture vs small picture.
Shutting down the KKK would be an improvement for everyone, no? Great idea, if you feel like ignoring the "ideology" of free speech.
Why is it an ideological issue? Well, because it's not about smoking. Everyone agrees that smoking and secondhand smoke are bad for you. The issue is whether business owners and consumers should be allowed to make their own decisions or government should make their decisions for them.
When it comes down to matters of public health, I don't think businesses should get the choice to allow their customers to damage other people's health.
A good byproduct of this type of legislation is that it makes it harder for people to smoke, which is better for them. However, that is not why I support such legislation.
Why is it an ideological issue? Well, because it's not about smoking. Everyone agrees that smoking and secondhand smoke are bad for you. The issue is whether business owners and consumers should be allowed to make their own decisions No, not always or government should make their decisions for them Yes, regarding some issues.
Too many Demos want the government in all aspects of ones life....not us. The Repubs are hardly much better either......
I'd say the Republicans are just as bad. Just with different issues. Sometimes even the same issues. It is not like there aren't any Republicans who are pro-smoking ban. Also, some Democrats oppose smoking bans as well.
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Originally Posted by stillkit
If "third hand smoke" is such a mortal danger, why aren't my kids dead yet? Or, my grandkids? Or, great-grandkids? They ALL have grown up crawling around and playing in my house, which must be ankle deep in "third hand smoke" after 40 years of my wife and I smoking 2 packs a day in it.
(sarcasm on) Third hand smoke! Snort! You suckers will believe anything, won't you? (sarcasm off)
You gotta love anti-smoking propaganda. They used to focus on the actual verifiable threats from firsthand smoking. Then they switched to secondhand smoke which is open to interpretation, but still has some epidemiological basis. Now, they are focusing on a shaky hypothesis with little grounding in actual facts. Next they will be claiming smokers shoot demons from their eyes and that we use the blood of non-smoking children to flavor our tobacco.
The anti-smoking movement has borrowed from sexual puritan, classist, and and racist propaganda, they might as borrow anti-Semitic propaganda as well.
In all honesty I have no clue what you're talking about, nor am I saying you're wrong, but I'd be interested in seeing examples of each of these. A PM would be fine!
Many hotels have terraces, if I was a smoker I would go outside to the terrace to smoke.
Not in Wisconsin, you wouldn't. Smoking is prohibited within what the law calls a "reasonable distance" of a door or window, and balconies or terraces are too close to be "reasonable."
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