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View Poll Results: The middle class is suffering and Republicans want to cut taxes for the wealthy. Do you agree with t
Yes, the wealthy need more money and power. This will help America. 38 20.54%
No, the Republicans are dead wrong.This hasn't ever helped anyone but the wealthy and will continue to hurt the middle class. 147 79.46%
Voters: 185. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-04-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The capital gains tax rate is 15%, almost TWICE the effective federal income tax rate the highest taxed of the bottom 90% of taxpayers pay.

Many of that 90% pay even less. For example, the top 25-50% group pays an effective federal income tax rate of only 5.56%. That 15% tax rate you're complaining about is nearly THREE times what that group pays.

Table 8, here: The Tax Foundation - Summary of Latest Federal Individual Income Tax Data
Source: IRS
You conveniently omit payroll taxes, which the poor pay a higher percentage than the rich, since payroll taxes are capped. Besides, the poor have little income. It's fair that they pay less.

 
Old 01-04-2012, 05:49 PM
 
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The capital gains tax rate is 15%, almost TWICE the effective federal income tax rate the highest taxed of the bottom 90% of taxpayers pay.

Many of that 90% pay even less. For example, the top 25-50% group pays an effective federal income tax rate of only 5.56%. That 15% tax rate you're complaining about is nearly THREE times what that group pays.

Table 8, here: The Tax Foundation - Summary of Latest Federal Individual Income Tax Data
Source: IRS
like i said, that doesn't include payroll taxes.
 
Old 01-04-2012, 05:50 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You conveniently omit payroll taxes, which the poor pay a higher percentage than the rich, since payroll taxes are capped. Besides, the poor have little income. It's fair that they pay less.
Look at the data for all federal taxes. The poor and the middle class STILL make out better.

Figure 2 (page 23), here: http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/wp1.pdf (broken link)

You have no point.
 
Old 01-04-2012, 05:53 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Furthermore, look who gets the HUGE bulk of federal, state, and local spending.

Figure 9 (page 33), here: http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/wp1.pdf (broken link)
 
Old 01-04-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You conveniently omit payroll taxes, which the poor pay a higher percentage than the rich, since payroll taxes are capped. Besides, the poor have little income. It's fair that they pay less.
Gee why have them pay anything at all ?
 
Old 01-04-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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Link?
Aleady posted here on the thread, hell I even posted the graph
 
Old 01-04-2012, 07:10 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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No. We absolutely need to know how shrimp run on treadmills.
The country will fall apart without studies like this. Besides this study is ONLY $500,000.

Or the robot that can fold a single towel in 25 minutes. That was only $1.5 million.
My favorite was the $600,000 to study why chimps throw feces.
 
Old 01-05-2012, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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like i said, that doesn't include payroll taxes.
I don't know your income level or age, but how much of your income do you think is fair to pay?

Let's take three incomes. Tell me how much you think each should pay as a percentage of their gross income.

Single professional earning $100,000.

Single mom with two kids earning $50,000 and receiving $12,000 a year in alimony and $12,000 a year in child support.

Recent college grad earning $35,000.

Anyone can chime in.
 
Old 01-05-2012, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I don't know your income level or age, but how much of your income do you think is fair to pay?

Let's take three incomes. Tell me how much you think each should pay as a percentage of their gross income.

Single professional earning $100,000.

Single mom with two kids earning $50,000 and receiving $12,000 a year in alimony and $12,000 a year in child support.

Recent college grad earning $35,000.

Anyone can chime in.
I'll go with 15% across the board with deductions for kids up to 18 living at home.

As income increases so do taxes proportionally. Those with kids get breaks. No other deductions whatsoever. Simple 1 page tax form and 1/2 page instructions.

Seems quite fair IMHO.
 
Old 01-05-2012, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Is this logic or nonsense ?
who is advocating cutting taxes on the wealthy?
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