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Yes, because the track record of spending has been such a rousing success. After spending more on education than the Iraq war, the test scores in America have gone down.
Which has little to do with spending more on education, and more about the federal government going about it the wrong way.
I don't have a problem with making education a primary concern.
I have a problem with them making standardized testing the primary concern.
That's where the fed went wrong.
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This is what happens when you remove the burden of learning from the parents and put it solely on the teacher which is what our massive spending on education has essentially done.
That's more of a societal thing than a result of the fed.
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Holding kids to a higher standard and getting the federal government OUT of education will be the best answer.
You can have both.
You know how?
Put the emphasis back on education and take it away from standardized testing.
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But sadly, no, the Democrats in their infinite widsom will continue to want to throw more more money at the problem rather than addressing the issues directly.
And defunding education will totally make it better.
College is unimportant and unnecessary. Most people only go because society and the media have told them they had to, not because they want to. So they think there's no other way. Why should someone spend years in college and build up thousands in debt to be left without a job afterwards? For instance, some people learn how to cook through their family or have studied the weather and astrology since they were in grade school. As I said earlier, why go to school when you know this stuff already? Doesn't make any sense...
Education should not be a federal issue, the federal government has no business in the education of our children. This is a responsibility of the State and the peoples of that state. When the federal government get involved it seems to paint everyone with the same broad brush and what works for one works for all, that isn't how it is in real life.
Put the responsibility where it belongs, on each State.
Where exactly are they demonizing them? Unions - yes. Indoctrination - yes.
The others are just LIES.
The unions are compromised of teachers, no teachers no unions. Who is doing the so called indoctrination, the teachers. So they are attacking the schools, and the teachers.
A far more accurate title to your string would be:
Just say "NO" to Federal meddling in Education.
I didn't realize criticizing teachers at the local level had anything to do with federalism versus state rights. You guys are trying to make this into a state rights versus federalism issue debate, which is fine, but that doesn't seem to be the premise of the thread.
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Being anti-education and anti-science has long been a rallying point for the right.
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For instance, some people learn how to cook through their family or have studied the weather and astrology since they were in grade school. As I said earlier, why go to school when you know this stuff already?
And the answer is that they don't already know that stuff. They may know a bit, but it's highly unlikely that they're experts. There's a lot more to physics, chemistry, biology, calculus, earth science, etc than just what's in high school textbooks.
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Education should not be a federal issue, the federal government has no business in the education of our children. This is a responsibility of the State and the peoples of that state. When the federal government get involved it seems to paint everyone with the same broad brush and what works for one works for all, that isn't how it is in real life.
Put the responsibility where it belongs, on each State.
I find this particularly interesting coming from someone in Oregon, where the schools outside a few areas (mostly college towns and wealthier suburbs) are stunningly awful, despite the state taking over education.
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2012 GOP slogan suggestion, "Just say no to education"
And the answer is that they don't already know that stuff. They may know a bit, but it's highly unlikely that they're experts. There's a lot more to physics, chemistry, biology, calculus, earth science, etc than just what's in high school textbooks.
