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Old 07-29-2012, 07:51 PM
 
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Lol, the only thing funnier is you wingnuts, knowing exactly what he said, trying to spin it into something it isn't. Pretty lame, and only meant for low infomation voters.
There is no way an truthful person could take what he said "in context", and say what he said is not what he said. This boy is a commie and he is doing what he can to make this nation the dream of his fathers communism. At least forty percent of thevAmerican taker population realizes either follow Obama or get a job. There will be no jobs under Obama. As Richard Pryorvwould say, "get a job!". We now live in a country where it is more important to get free stuff and meet sustenance no matter how bare, than it is to work and try to better oneself.

Those with wealth will not bet on such a population. In a manner of speaking , "Atlas has shrugged already".

 
Old 07-29-2012, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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There is no way an truthful person could take what he said "in context", and say what he said is not what he said. This boy is a commie and he is doing what he can to make this nation the dream of his fathers communism. At least forty percent of thevAmerican taker population realizes either follow Obama or get a job. There will be no jobs under Obama. As Richard Pryorvwould say, "get a job!". We now live in a country where it is more important to get free stuff and meet sustenance no matter how bare, than it is to work and try to better oneself.

Those with wealth will not bet on such a population. In a manner of speaking , "Atlas has shrugged already".
'you didn't build THAT.'

HONESTLY, tell me, do YOU really think Obama was telling businessmen they didnt build their business? Or are you ready to admit Obama was saying you didn't build the infrastructure you benefit from?
 
Old 07-29-2012, 08:56 PM
 
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'you didn't build THAT.'

HONESTLY, tell me, do YOU really think Obama was telling businessmen they didnt build their business? Or are you ready to admit Obama was saying you didn't build the infrastructure you benefit from?
What Obama was trying to say is that business owners cannot take full credit for their success, part of it is due to te government who built the infrastructure, therefore get ready pay more in taxes.
The general feeling is that Obama is building up public approval for more taxes on business. That's why so much aproar.
I am not going back into discussing the merits of his comment, I think everybody knows that every business ownere pays for access to any infrastructure it is connected to. The point is that we are being conditioned for more taxes on business.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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There is no way an truthful person could take what he said "in context", and say what he said is not what he said. This boy is a commie and he is doing what he can to make this nation the dream of his fathers communism. At least forty percent of thevAmerican taker population realizes either follow Obama or get a job. There will be no jobs under Obama. As Richard Pryorvwould say, "get a job!". We now live in a country where it is more important to get free stuff and meet sustenance no matter how bare, than it is to work and try to better oneself.

Those with wealth will not bet on such a population. In a manner of speaking , "Atlas has shrugged already".
Oh? What "free stuff" has Obama started to give away that wasn't given away before? Where do you derive this silly statement that "there will be no jobs under Obama?" To me, this is just a wild rant not tethered to facts.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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He didn't say "You didn't build that (by yourself)", he said "You didn't build that."

Big difference there..big difference.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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What Obama was trying to say is that business owners cannot take full credit for their success, part of it is due to te government who built the infrastructure, therefore get ready pay more in taxes.
The general feeling is that Obama is building up public approval for more taxes on business. That's why so much aproar.
I am not going back into discussing the merits of his comment, I think everybody knows that every business ownere pays for access to any infrastructure it is connected to. The point is that we are being conditioned for more taxes on business.
Your OPINION. YOU'RE NOT IN OBAMA'S MIND, you can only speculate what he thought.

" Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."
 
Old 07-30-2012, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Well they are doing the hard work..but where's the "smarts" in driving a taxi ?
The smarts would come into play when you find out what they are doing with their money once they get it. Spend it on stuff like the typical consumer then you're not too smart.
Really? You think it takes no smarts to be a taxi driver? Figuring out where you will find the most fares? Figuring out which route o take that will give you the most profit, and the most potential for new fares? Reading the patrons to see if they will tip well, want to chat, want it quiet? Not to mention the ridiculousness of getting a medallion in most cities.


And don't forget about the high risk nature of the job, you could easily get into a car accident or pick up a psycho.

What about the value of cabs? They actually keep individual cars of the road (and parking spaces), so all drivers have more space.

Incomes in the US do not reflect the value of the service to the nation. If it did, teachers would make a lot more money than Snooki or Kim Kardashian.

****Generally speaking, most cab drivers in the US are actually really well-educated Especially the ones from the middle east or africa. They just couldn't translate their previous certifications/careers here immediately, and needed to find a quick way to make money and start getting settled in.
 
Old 07-30-2012, 05:25 AM
 
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Your OPINION. YOU'RE NOT IN OBAMA'S MIND, you can only speculate what he thought.

" Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."
After Obama said the points and explained what his point is there should be one more "my points is" explaining why exactly is he making this points, what is he trying to say. What was your point Mr. Obama?
 
Old 07-30-2012, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Really? You think it takes no smarts to be a taxi driver? Figuring out where you will find the most fares? Figuring out which route o take that will give you the most profit, and the most potential for new fares? Reading the patrons to see if they will tip well, want to chat, want it quiet? Not to mention the ridiculousness of getting a medallion in most cities.


And don't forget about the high risk nature of the job, you could easily get into a car accident or pick up a psycho.

What about the value of cabs? They actually keep individual cars of the road (and parking spaces), so all drivers have more space.

Incomes in the US do not reflect the value of the service to the nation. If it did, teachers would make a lot more money than Snooki or Kim Kardashian.

****Generally speaking, most cab drivers in the US are actually really well-educated Especially the ones from the middle east or africa. They just couldn't translate their previous certifications/careers here immediately, and needed to find a quick way to make money and start getting settled in.
Gotta luv it, a thread intended to attack Obama on the wingnuts invented slight of businessmen and what do we have from the wingnuts? An attack on small businessmen from Tex. For your info Tex, most cab drivers are independent sub contractors, they either own, lease or rent their cabs, they are SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE.

My family has been closely tied to cab driving for nearly 50 years. My mom, two sisters and my youngest brother all have worked for the same cab company. My brother has driven part-time for 20 plus years. He recently purchase a 12 person van in addition to his cab and is contracting weddings, parties and special events. He has hired a second part time driver for when he's busy or is doing his other job, crane operators. He is a very intelligent and hard working guy, he recently missed his daughter's graduation becuz of a wedding contract.

What's the deal tex, only wealthy ppl fall under your definition of a businessman? Small contractors, SMALL BUSINESSMEN, getting kicked to the curb in your world??? If you're going to pretend you're defending small businessmen dont bash small businessmen.
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