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Old 07-22-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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ABC invited......
ABC15, local affiliate, to be exact.

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..... lead investigator Mark Zullo to explain more about the 'definite' forged birth certificate to viewers. Have a look.

VIDEO: Arpaio's lead investigator talks Obama birth certificate with ABC15
sweet! thanks for the link!

this is obviously before zullo got the message that the 1961 code standards contradicts his beliefs ( in the press conference he tried to pass off 1968 standards as 1961 ). soon after this zullo claimed that it was a special hawaii only standard that was used...... altho he's yet to prove such a standard ever existed or explain why he was then promoting national standards as his evidence.

Cold Case Posse: backed into a corner | Obama Conspiracy Theories

another claim of zullo's in the tape is that the registration numbers were issued chronologically. this is contradicted by the birth certificates we have seen to date from kapiolani in august 1961:

WND Mystery certificate – 09945 – 8/23/1961
Nordyke, Susan – 10637 – 8/5/1961
Nordyke, Gretchen – 10638- 8/5/1961
Obama, Barack – 10641- 8/4/1961
Waidelich, Stig – 10920- 8/5/1961

the "WND Mystery certificate" came from a birth certificate that WND had posted but with the registration number redacted........... presumably because it contradicted their claim that the registration numbers were issued chronologically!
( the back of the birth certificate had also been posted and by adjusting the color levels you can clearly see the registration number, and some of the other info, bleeding thru ).

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/...raud-theories/

and zullo's claim that "prima facie" means "more information is needed to confirm" is complete BS. it means that it is legally to be taken at face value (b)unless(/b) there is solid evidence that contradicts it (..... and the CCP crap would not hold up as contradicting evidence ).
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:55 PM
 
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Well I agree there. If this was investigated from the get go, most likely he would have been out of office by now.
Birthers. A hundred threads on CD, but zero wins in court, zero facts to back up their outlandish claims, zero credible experts willing to look at their bogus "evidence", zero credible lawyers willing to take up their cause, zero credibility. One would think, after more than 100 cases have been tossed out of courts across the country, they would start to get that their theories have no merit, but apparently there's no cure for stupid.

After this thread runs its course, another will be along shortly. Their stupidity is equaled only by their tenaciousness.
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Old 07-22-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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Don't care where the pr!ck was born, just want him gone from office before he finishes the destruction of the country...
Yeah cause the people before him aren't the cause of all of this.

Put the petty anger away and try using thoughts instead.

Is the White House worried about this type of thing? No the only people who care about the birther nonsense are the uneducated, tin foil hat wearing trailer park types who'd vote Republican even if the person was a convicted rapist. The birther nonsense alienates indies and the Obama campaign would benefit from that.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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Birthers. A hundred threads on CD, but zero wins in court, zero facts to back up their outlandish claims, zero credible experts willing to look at their bogus "evidence", zero credible lawyers willing to take up their cause, zero credibility. One would think, after more than 100 cases have been tossed out of courts across the country, they would start to get that their theories have no merit, but apparently there's no cure for stupid.

After this thread runs its course, another will be along shortly. Their stupidity is equaled only by their tenaciousness.
Better to just ignore afterbirther threads.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:02 PM
 
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Better to just ignore afterbirther threads.
I prefer the term "Placental" threads!
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Birthers. A hundred threads on CD, but zero wins in court, zero facts to back up their outlandish claims, zero credible experts willing to look at their bogus "evidence", zero credible lawyers willing to take up their cause, zero credibility. One would think, after more than 100 cases have been tossed out of courts across the country, they would start to get that their theories have no merit, but apparently there's no cure for stupid.

After this thread runs its course, another will be along shortly. Their stupidity is equaled only by their tenaciousness.
The great thing about America is everyone has a voice, and no one can surpress anyone elses voice. That's something I believe we should all celebrate, even when we don't agree 100% with some of the stuff we consider whacky. And really, what lawyer would take up such a case? This is the president of the United States. How the heck are you going to beat the guy who has unlimited resources at his disposal? He can hire and army of legal experts, surprise witnesses, forgers of the highest order, and so forth. He basically has the power to completely rewrite his history. How exactly do you beat that?

I'm not saying the birthers are on to anything. I am suggesting that even if there was a shred of truth to their suspicions, it would be next to impossible to find it. All the while, they will be made to be the laughingstock for the country.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:03 PM
 
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Everything starts out slow just like Watergate did before it went national. The Maricopa Sheriff's Departments investigation has awaken a lot of people on this subject and this issue is gaining traction. Radio talk shows are highly interested interviewing the investigators of this case iand news sources are realizing this polarizing issue is a very important. The Maricopa Sheriffs Departments lead investigator was invited by ABC to explain more on how Obama's birth certificate is a forgery. It is very compelling. The interview was very good and balanced. Actually, precisely what a reporter should be asking of the materials presented in the Maricopa County Sheriff Departments press conference they gave on July 17th. The 6 minute report you are about to watch is something the White House can't be happy about.

Watch:
VIDEO: Arpaio's lead investigator talks Obama birth certificate with ABC15
It's very misleading to say "ABC News questions..." only to be referring to a local ABC station. Bait and switch.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:11 PM
 
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The investigation as nothing but a sham from the get go.
worst than that...... it hasn't even been an original sham.

the first press conference's "evidence" was a repeat of previous WND/jerome corsi articles ( including the claims of mara zebest ).

this second press conference is almost verbatim from an accusation made by "the daily pen" back in february...... to the point of using the same WRONG evidence! ( the 1968 codes instead of the 1961 codes)

THE DAILY PEN: VITAL RECORDS INDICATE OBAMA NOT BORN IN HAWAII HOSPITAL (PART 2)
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Yeah cause the people before him aren't the cause of all of this.

Put the petty anger away and try using thoughts instead.

Is the White House worried about this type of thing? No the only people who care about the birther nonsense are the uneducated, tin foil hat wearing trailer park types who'd vote Republican even if the person was a convicted rapist. The birther nonsense alienates indies and the Obama campaign would benefit from that.
Still blaming Bush 4 years later I see...

If it wasn't for Bush policies Obama never would've gotten the #1 most wanted fugitive in the world, Obama Sin Laden.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:17 PM
 
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This is the president of the United States. How the heck are you going to beat the guy who has unlimited resources at his disposal? He can hire and army of legal experts, surprise witnesses, forgers of the highest order, and so forth. He basically has the power to completely rewrite his history. How exactly do you beat that?
Yet with all you say above, none of that helped Nixon when it involved a small time burglary did it?
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