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"Obamacare" doesn't affect healthcare delivery decisions, at least not any more than the current insurance company hustle does. A $100 billion+ industry is going to have a lot to say and it will be about increasing profits, whether that means denying care or re-naming it to fit a more profitable column. I don't worry about the Affordable Care Act in these regards. There's already plenty of damage.
Oh, and yes, a fetus is a parasite until it can live separately from its host. I fully support abortion choice until that point, and after that point for good medical reasons (which is basically the only reason people get such late-term abortions).
I have always maintained that most people who rail against abortion are absolutely against women having sex "without having to pay to play." Of course, this ignores the some 51 percent of married women who get abortions. Not every woman is willing to have a pregnancy for every act of intercourse, no matter married or not, protected or not (and certainly protection can fail).
Still love how those against government and its intrusions have no problem with government legislating about abortion and one's body. Just wait a minute, and "She should have kept her legs closed" comes up.
I personally think it is an ethical distaste if people (women) are careless with birth control and have abortions because of that. However, I don't see making it illegal for everyone based on those who are careless (oh and what about those guys involved...).
I am one of the few women my age that I know didn't have an abortion, if not more than one. For those a few years older than me, it was an illegal abortion.
Most of the anti-abortion adherents are men that are more anti-choice than anti-abortion. They want a system where abortion is illegal, expensive and the women are under their control of the men that will pay for it. Control is the key factor and much more important then the fetus.
The problem for the authoritarian males left in this society is many have lost control of their wives, sisters and daughters as economic and spiritual opportunities for women have improved since the 1960’s. Many women no longer need to become indentured servants and bedmates to achieve minimal security for them and their children. A major factor has been the vast increase in separation and divorce due to addiction related abuse. Some women can work and support themselves and their children without risking physical and psychological harm from an abusive, drunk or philandering man.
This leaves quite a number of men living with the think they fear most. That is nobody left around to coerce, control and bully. From their point of view what is left if you cannot assert your authority over another person. Sometimes beating the dog is simply not enough. How can you prove you manhood if you cannot rape your wife or girl and force her to have YOUR baby? There are some things that just have to be.
This is the basis of the War on Women. It is weak men in political power losing their control over their women because the women involved do not accept being possessed and controlled by men just for the sake of an orgasm once in a while. They realize that is a really bad deal and have stopped doing what they are told to do with their own bodies.
No, I'm pretty sure I oppose abortion because it ends an innocent, developing human life. All of my male friends who oppose abortion have the same stance; it's about the unborn, not about maintaining control over women. The idea that pro-life men oppose abortion as some sort of last-ditch effort to keep women subservient and oppressed is ridiculous.
I would agree, abortionists are sexually dysfunctional males---how else can they kill a baby. Yes, I have problems with them.
Who is killing a baby?
Isn't a baby born, you know, the living outside of the womb creatures that your side of the house wants to remove all support for.
Women also perform abortions.
Or do you prefer women to have to get back alley abortions that kill or infect them?
Is that what you want?
Really, do you hate women so very much?
You better get use to the government making ALL your health decisions with Obamacare. Whenever you go to the doctor he or she first has to check with a politician to see if they can do the procedure on you that will save your life. It will depend on what group you land in if it is worth saving your life or letting you die. Hope you like the new system.
Why do you continue to make things up?
Try reading the health bill, you might be surprised.
It's a lot better than making stuff up.
Facts are better than opinion, always.
You better get use to the government making ALL your health decisions with Obamacare. Whenever you go to the doctor he or she first has to check with a politician to see if they can do the procedure on you that will save your life. It will depend on what group you land in if it is worth saving your life or letting you die. Hope you like the new system.
No, the government does not make medical decisions in Affordable Healthcare....and you have never proven that it does and many have shown you it doesn't...sorry learning is such a hardship.
YOU prefer that health insurance executives make medical decisions based on the bottom line (REAL death panels) ...why do want that??? That's weird....
Now, maybe you could address the post of mine you QUOTED instead of flying off somewhere in La-la land... Here it is, try again:
The question was:""""Does it bother you ladies out there to have a largely male-dominated government making decisions about abortion? """
Now pay attention.
When a woman goes to a doctor to have an abortion SHE has already made the decision.
OK so far? Following along?
So, she has ALREADY made the decision and the sex of the doctor is not relevent.
The doctor, whether male or female, did NOT make her decision.
Now, go back to the question and think it over.
Then ask yourself how many of YOUR decisions affecting the rest of your life do YOU want government to make.....
There is no doubt in my mind that if men could get pregnant, there would be no discussion whatsoever of taking away their right to decide.
[quote=Who?Me?!;26224682]And every Walgreen's and Walmart would have a free abortion clinic. You're right, it's all about male dominance and control of women....NOT abortion.[/quote]
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Originally Posted by janelle144
There are more males out there that are forcing women to get an abortion---who wants to pay child support for a one night stand anyway? Even when marriage is involved women are beat and threatened if they don't get the abortion. But some women actually support those kind of men and think highly of them.
Once again You post a quote of mine (bolded above) and your answer has nothing to do with it!!!
Are you just in love with me or what???
"Obamacare" doesn't affect healthcare delivery decisions, at least not any more than the current insurance company hustle does. A $100 billion+ industry is going to have a lot to say and it will be about increasing profits, whether that means denying care or re-naming it to fit a more profitable column. I don't worry about the Affordable Care Act in these regards. There's already plenty of damage.
Oh, and yes, a fetus is a parasite until it can live separately from its host. I fully support abortion choice until that point, and after that point for good medical reasons (which is basically the only reason people get such late-term abortions).
I have always maintained that most people who rail against abortion are absolutely against women having sex "without having to pay to play." Of course, this ignores the some 51 percent of married women who get abortions. Not every woman is willing to have a pregnancy for every act of intercourse, no matter married or not, protected or not (and certainly protection can fail).
Still love how those against government and its intrusions have no problem with government legislating about abortion and one's body. Just wait a minute, and "She should have kept her legs closed" comes up.
I personally think it is an ethical distaste if people (women) are careless with birth control and have abortions because of that. However, I don't see making it illegal for everyone based on those who are careless (oh and what about those guys involved...).
I am one of the few women my age that I know didn't have an abortion, if not more than one. For those a few years older than me, it was an illegal abortion.
obamacare will affect healthcare delivery. Very much so. If you think insurance companies can be viscious with how they handle healthcare decisions, think about how rough the government will be when they take over. At least the insurance company has to try to make their customers happy sometimes in order to keep them. The government will not. Ever known someone on Medicare and they didn't cover a procedure that may have saved their life. Yeah, it will be like that and that IS haveing the government make healthcare decisions for you. If choice is so important to Democrats, why are they willing to have it taken away except on abortion? Why is abortion y'alls only healthcare concern? I have other organs besides my uterus that I care more about.
If a fetus is a parasite then so is a new born. It feeds off of his/her mother then too and cannot live on it's own. The only difference is that it breathes air and poops. Just disassociating the idea of it being a human life by calling it a parasite might help you rationalize that it's ok to kill a baby, though.
I am all for smaller government and less intrusion by the government and I know that me being pro-life sounds confusing. But, for me, it is the protection of a life that is more important than the prevention of intrusion of a woman's choice. When you think of an unborn child as a human life and that all human life should be respected, it is easy to want it protected. That is why it is important to me and other conservatives.
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You post a quote of mine (bolded above) and your answer has nothing to do with it!!!
