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Old 11-17-2012, 10:00 AM
 
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I'll bet a government-run military and police force scares you most of all, doesn't it?
Do you think we need a government run 'police force'?
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:02 AM
 
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Yeah, republican governors in 4 states have tried to take away government worker's like union firemen, teachers and police pensions and their ability to collectively bargain. Does Wisconsin ring a bell?

Plus the link claims that Obama personally will confiscate all private pension funds. what a load of Right wing republican scare tactic, crapola. No way would he or could he do such an outragious thing. Anybody who believes this is truly deaf, dumb and blind to the truth.
The government confiscated the gold not too long ago so don't think it can't happen. You really don't think they could pass a law forcing you to shift your retirement where they want or force heavy taxes or fines? Of course they could do it. Wake up.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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I'll bet a government-run military and police force scares you most of all, doesn't it?

No, not "most of all," but it can be messed up at times, like Kent State for instance. Yeah, that gave me the shivers, too.
toodie
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Hey..follow what is going on if you want. If you don't think this is plausible then don't follow it.
But don't deny that the talks and proposals aren't happening because they are and have been for a few years now.

Even the DOL had a public hearing (3 days I think) on "Lifetime Income Options" for Americans.
Here's the link: (links to the transcripts of those hearings are on that page)
Lifetime Income Options For Participants And Beneficiaries In Retirement Plans

In all cases it involves the Fed Government taking ownership of all retirement funds and making decisions on the distribution of those funds upon retirement.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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The military is about the only arm of the government that functions and that is only when the politicians get out of the way.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:25 AM
 
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The Latest move can be found in the Obama Administration`s, 256 page- FY 2013 Budget Proposal. The revival of his 2008 presidential run, the “Automatic IRA†which has now “Evolved†into two proposals: Secure Choice Pension & Government Retirement Accounts (GRA’s), both of which automatically- “Mandate†5% - 6% contributions into Government Run Pension funds.
There is no page 256. The last numbered page is 250.

Also doing a search for "Secure Choice Pension" shows no results.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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I'm not seeing anything on any creditable news sites yet. It seems to be a wild claim made only on right wing blogs so I think it is safe to say this is not creditable.
Exactly!

Remember when all the right wing nutjob sites were claiming the Benghazi was a terror attack by an al-Qaeda linked group? My God, how nutty can you get when EVERYONE knew it was caused by anti-Muslim movie on youtube!

Good times, good times!

I mean the President was saying it wasn't terror related, Susan Rice was saying it wasn't about terror and we all know they are the kind of people who would never lie.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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TENTH ANNUAL PENSIONS AND CAPITAL STEWARDSHIP CONFERENCE
March 2012
Pensions and Capital Stewardship Project, Labor and Worklife Program
Harvard Law School, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Hank Kim, Executive Director, National Conference on Public Employee Retirement Systems

“What Can the Role of Pension Funds Be in Economic Growth and Job Creation?”
Financial Market Post-Meltdown: Are We At the Beginning or the End of the Change That is Needed?
“Should Pension Funds Invest in Commodities? If So What Are the Implications for Them....and Others?”
“Infrastructure Investments by New York City Unions’ Pension Funds: A Promising Plan? Reasons, Risks, Recommendations”
“Investment in Private Markets: Rewards, Risks, and Implications for Economic Growth and Jobs – Good Jobs? – Creation”
Doing Well by Doing Good? The Public Sector Plan Role in EnablingPrivate Sector Worker Participation Retirement Plans


http://www.law.harvard.edu/programs/...Hank%20Kim.pdf
April 2012
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Exactly!

Remember when all the right wing nutjob sites were claiming the Benghazi was a terror attack by an al-Qaeda linked group? My God, how nutty can you get when EVERYONE knew it was caused by anti-Muslim movie on youtube!

Good times, good times!

I mean the President was saying it wasn't terror related, Susan Rice was saying it wasn't about terror and we all know they are the kind of people who would never lie.
Just leave them in their world and let them then deny it even as it happens.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Exactly!

Remember when all the right wing nutjob sites were claiming the Benghazi was a terror attack by an al-Qaeda linked group? My God, how nutty can you get when EVERYONE knew it was caused by anti-Muslim movie on youtube!

Good times, good times!

I mean the President was saying it wasn't terror related, Susan Rice was saying it wasn't about terror and we all know they are the kind of people who would never lie.
Damn!!!! this is big news! Please, please post the link where the president said the Benghazi attack wasn't terror related. I can't wait. Give me the direct link so I can ram it down Huffpo, CNN and MSNBC's throat!!!
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