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It's still more than a month left for Christmas, so I could care less if you wish me "Happy Holidays" for Thanksgiving. My point was during Christmas Eve, and few days before that.
It's still more than a month left for Christmas, so I could care less if you wish me "Happy Holidays" for Thanksgiving. My point was during Christmas Eve, and few days before that.
Once December arrives, I wish my Christian friends a "Merry Christmas," my Jewish friends a "Happy Chanukah," and religion unknown friends/strangers a "Happy Holiday."
If I worked retail during the holiday season, all customers would be wished a Happy Holiday. To assume everyone is Christian is presumptively arrogant.
Did anyone read the article? The atheists acquired spaces to express their views, fair and square, right along with the Christians.
The trouble started when the atheist displays were vandalized.....no doubt.....by Christians.
So.....since the Christians couldn't play nice.....the city said no one gets to play.
Sooooo....how is this the fault of the atheists?
If the Christians had played by the rules.....their displays would still be allowed.....right along with the atheist displays.
But why, can you explain that? Christmas is a religious holiday for many, but more than that it is a festive time throughout the world. It is a family time, a time for giving and if in the Chirstmas spirit a nativy scene is assembled, or a santa claus display, so why should that bother anyone. let the Athiests do their thing some other time. How would you feel about Hannukah candles on display without Atheist displays allowed as well? Would that bother you or do you choose to direct your conplaints just toward Christians? Nita
Once December arrives, I wish my Christian friends a "Merry Christmas," my Jewish friends a "Happy Chanukah," and religion unknown friends/strangers a "Happy Holiday."
If I worked retail during the holiday season, all customers would be wished a Happy Holiday. To assume everyone is Christian is presumptively arrogant.
I tell my friends to "get stuffed." It covers all occasions.
I see a difference in intent. Christmas displays are for Christmas; they tell the Christmas story of Christ's birth.
Atheists' displays are against Christmas. To be seen as really objective, they should be against all religions. As it is, they're simply hateful against Christmans (and Christ). Wonder why they are compelled to be against just that one? Hmmm...
No, I don't wonder. Ask any true Christian. They know.
But why, can you explain that? Christmas is a religious holiday for many, but more than that it is a festive time throughout the world. It is a family time, a time for giving and if in the Chirstmas spirit a nativy scene is assembled, or a santa claus display, so why should that bother anyone. let the Athiests do their thing some other time. How would you feel about Hannukah candles on display without Atheist displays allowed as well? Would that bother you or do you choose to direct your conplaints just toward Christians? Nita
Some Atheists celebrate Christmas too. Some just celebrate being with family and friends.
One of the displays by atheists that was vandalized said happy holidays. One was a gnome.
Are you offended by a sign saying happy holidays or a gnome. Is the sign saying happy solstice offensive?
Of all the displays I have seen pictures of ONE wasn't in the best taste, but there is still free speech in this country.
I see a difference in intent. Christmas displays are for Christmas; they tell the Christmas story of Christ's birth.
Atheists' displays are against Christmas. To be seen as really objective, they should be against all religions. As it is, they're simply hateful against Christmans (and Christ). Wonder why they are compelled to be against just that one? Hmmm...
No, I don't wonder. Ask any true Christian. They know.
How do snowmen, reindeer, decorated trees, and gingerbread men tell the story of the birth of Jesus?
But why, can you explain that? Christmas is a religious holiday for many, but more than that it is a festive time throughout the world. It is a family time, a time for giving and if in the Chirstmas spirit a nativy scene is assembled, or a santa claus display, so why should that bother anyone. let the Athiests do their thing some other time. How would you feel about Hannukah candles on display without Atheist displays allowed as well? Would that bother you or do you choose to direct your conplaints just toward Christians? Nita
There has been a growing resentment, with some justification, concerning the display of the dominate religion. The only reason I can see for an atheist to proselytize is in protest to the proselytizations of other religions. If other religions did not feel the need to proselytize, then there would be no need for atheists to proselytize.
Your question is a good example. Jews very rarely feel the need to proselytize, and as a result you do not find atheist displays opposing Judaism. Christians, on the other hand, besides being the dominate religion (and the biggest target) feel the need to proselytize regularly. This is what offends most people, particularly atheists.
There has been a growing resentment, with some justification, concerning the display of the dominate religion. The only reason I can see for an atheist to proselytize is in protest to the proselytizations of other religions. If other religions did not feel the need to proselytize, then there would be no need for atheists to proselytize.
Your question is a good example. Jews very rarely feel the need to proselytize, and as a result you do not find atheist displays opposing Judaism. Christians, on the other hand, besides being the dominate religion (and the biggest target) feel the need to proselytize regularly. This is what offends most people, particularly atheists.
Great explanation.
I understand and accept that as Christians we are commanded to spread the Gospel, however, we do have a choice as to how we do this and beating people over the head is not a really good choice.
The old adage about getting more bees with honey... is quite apropos.
Those who do not believe in any divine entity, but have no animosity towards those who do believe; and
Those who do not believe in any divine entity, and are also anti-theist. They have a great deal of animosity towards those who do believe.
Most atheists do not feel the need to publicly express their lack of belief, however, some do.
Thanks for the explantion.....well done I do believe the bold describes many here on C-D and even in this thread............some just have to let others know their not tolerant of others beliefs, although they like for others to think they are............ Thy're just the opposite of a over zealot Christian.
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