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Old 08-09-2013, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Happy in Utah
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The sad thing is even with a bathroom in the classroom a few teachers would not allow a child to use it. My son had a kindergarten teacher who would not allow him to use the bathroom and he wet himself, I did not get a call until an hour later, because she could not find my number.

 
Old 08-09-2013, 09:08 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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The sad thing is even with a bathroom in the classroom a few teachers would not allow a child to use it. My son had a kindergarten teacher who would not allow him to use the bathroom and he wet himself, I did not get a call until an hour later, because she could not find my number.
I won't be arguing for people to have some compassion for this teacher. She was wrong on multiple counts on this one.
 
Old 08-09-2013, 09:35 PM
 
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The sad thing is even with a bathroom in the classroom a few teachers would not allow a child to use it. My son had a kindergarten teacher who would not allow him to use the bathroom and he wet himself, I did not get a call until an hour later, because she could not find my number.
I recall in kindergarten we had a bathroom in the classroom. We used it at will. There was a little red stop sign that we would place in front of the door when we occupied it.

I suppose nowadays Liberals believe 5 year olds are incapable of such.
 
Old 08-09-2013, 09:43 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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That of course proves the point, for those classrooms which do not have an in-classroom bathroom. Children still need to be able to use the restroom at will as needed. It isn't the child's fault the teacher finds it "inconvenient."
Part of the reason I want bathrooms in the classroom is to eliminate the three times-a-day bathroom breaks that suck up 30 minutes a day of instruction time. Again, the children at this age do just fine with regular scheduled breaks and do not need to go at-will, unless they are sick. The bathroom in the class would be more convenient for all concerned, including the teacher. Again, the teacher isn't preventing the kids from going at-will because it is inconvenient for her, she is doing it to maintain an effective learning environment, to assure their personal safety, and most likely because her principal will not tolerate her allowing the kids to go at-will because of the other two reasons and she'd like to have a job next year.
 
Old 08-09-2013, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Happy in Utah
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Doesn't the school have spare clothing just in case?
No, they did not so my poor son sat in his classroom with wet pants, she did not even have the kindness to send him to the office.
 
Old 08-09-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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Part of the reason I want bathrooms in the classroom is to eliminate the three times-a-day bathroom breaks that suck up 30 minutes a day of instruction time. Again, the children at this age do just fine with regular scheduled breaks and do not need to go at-will, unless they are sick. The bathroom in the class would be more convenient for all concerned, including the teacher. Again, the teacher isn't preventing the kids from going at-will because it is inconvenient for her, she is doing it to maintain an effective learning environment, to assure their personal safety, and most likely because her principal will not tolerate her allowing the kids to go at-will because of the other two reasons and she'd like to have a job next year.
Excuses for incompetence and unacceptable policy. Let me guess... You're a public school "educator," aren't you?
 
Old 08-09-2013, 09:51 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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No, they did not so my poor son sat in his classroom with wet pants, she did not even have the kindness to send him to the office.
Okay folks, jump away all you want about this one.
 
Old 08-09-2013, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Happy in Utah
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The bathroom was in the classroom, her response was well if I let one use it when they want to they will all want to use it. I asked her if she needed me to come and sit in the classroom so I could open and close the bathroom door since, it was so hard for her to allow the children to do it themselves.
 
Old 08-09-2013, 10:01 PM
 
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Excuses for incompetence and unacceptable policy. Let me guess... You're a public school "educator," aren't you?
Sure am. Let me guess, you have never tried to manage a group of 25-30 seven and eight year-olds for an extended period of time. They aren't unacceptable policies, they are nothing new either, because there are valid reasons for them, including the child's safety. Unless you manage to convince school systems to build those bathrooms or hire aides to escort them back and forth, those policies are here to stay. The children's safety must come first, effective instruction is the primary purpose of school so that is the second priority, and only then should other things be considered when making policies.
 
Old 08-09-2013, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Happy in Utah
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I hope your son was able to overcome that awful ordeal.
Thanks, yes and no we ended up homeschooling him in 2nd grade, after her and severe bullying I was done. I am not saying all of Utah schools are bad in fact he had really wonderful teachers after his first kindergarten teacher, it was just either I was not loud enough or the Principle did not care about kids being bullied. He is doing really well in K12 and i am very thank full to his 2nd grade teacher of suggesting, that homeschooling might be the best thing for him.
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