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Old 12-03-2012, 03:18 PM
 
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I don't recall having self-control problems in 2nd grade - 30 years a go.

Have kindergartens really failed our children?
you didn’t know me.... It took a 3rd grade battle ax and a heavy dose of Ritalin to get me calmed down and on the honor roll...I still can’t spell...

but I would suggest to you that parents today are failures on oh so many levels.

My wife and I are actively engaged in our kids’ education. we are clear in communication and when issues pop up we deal with them.


What is shocking about that is that the teachers are shocked by our commitment and demand that our kids behave and achieve. These teachers are conditioned to expect defensive parents who blame the teacher for everything and cannot conceive of the notion that their child could be other than the brightest, best behaved child in the class....

And I live in a very affluent bedroom community... failure? YES but as often as not by the parents not the teachers…

 
Old 12-03-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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suspension? nah, fired would be alot better.
Yeah sure let's fire every first year teacher who makes a mistake.
She's been teaching for four months...those no need for her to be fired or even suspended UNLESS she continues to do it after school officials have said no.

At this point, its just a one-sided story from a pissed-off parent. For all we know, this could be a policy the other teachers use as well.
 
Old 12-03-2012, 03:27 PM
 
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Teaching elementary school is not for everyone. It shouldn't be pursued because it calls for a college degree but no hard stuff like advanced math and difficult professional exams. You should really like and respect children and want to be around them 5 days a week . Besides tons of patience, you need to realize you're working with children not mini- 30 year olds. If the kid ran out of 2$ whatever just let them go and make a note to find out why this particular child is having problems with this buck system.
 
Old 12-03-2012, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You don't know the whole story so you shouldn't judge based on one side.

For all we know that could be the teacher's "problem child" who can't be let loose in the halls.

4 months into school and I have a short list of 6th graders who I don't let go to the bathroom now.
Why ? Because they have gone everywhere in the school BUT the bathroom when they left.
So now they have to go inbetween classes or during another class because I don't let them leave once the 2nd bell rings.

And that this kid didn't have 2 good kid bucks after 4 months should say something as well.
 
Old 12-03-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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Children are given time to use the restroom. KIds should not require extra time during class to do so unless there is a medical reason the teacher has been told about. Some kids will pee in their pants on purpose to try and challenge the teachers authority.
LOL. I'm sorry, but that's one of the most absurd statements I've read on this forum. Just poppycock.
 
Old 12-03-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: #
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I think the teacher should have to earn point to take her (breaks) from a jail cell this is just so not right i would remove my children from that school and sue!!!
Until you see that child's discipline record and so forth, there really is no fair comment for this situation.
 
Old 12-03-2012, 03:59 PM
 
Location: California
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Kids have been peeing their pants in elementary school since elementary school was invented. This was a poor call on the part of the teacher who needs to realize that very young kids need more leeway, but that's all. No need for anything else to happen here.
 
Old 12-03-2012, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Until you see that child's discipline record and so forth, there really is no fair comment for this situation.
Honestly its hard to make a fair comment without hearing the teacher's side of the story, although I kinda feel its a moot point since the bathroom system has been disbanded.
 
Old 12-03-2012, 04:01 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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A child who needs to go to the toilet should be allowed to go to the bathroom for a break.

Always.

If the kid flakes off in the hall on the way, then a hall monitor should escort him.

These teachers are out of their minds, that's child abuse to not allow the boy to go the the bathroom, and then for him to wet himself, to all humiliation.

If that was my kid, that teacher would have some explaining to do.
 
Old 12-03-2012, 04:11 PM
 
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We had a lock down drill at my old school which had run about 15 mins when a student asked to go to the bathroom. The teacher in the room told him he needed to wait until the lock down was over (they tended to last about 20 mins). He took out his phone, called his parents, and his parents told him to just leave the classroom. The teacher wouldn't let him back in.

He got taken to the principal's office by the police. While there the principal confiscated his phone (for using it during school) and low and behold a text message to his friends where he bragged he was "going to try to get this teacher fired". His parents were humiliated when they got to school.

So yes, it happens, that kids will play the bathroom card when they do not need to go.
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