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Old 01-23-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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You're absolutely right that right wingers are very compliant followers and by their very nature have a very strong need to submit to the will of authoritarian figures/authorities. I think something in their psychological makeup makes them fearful unless they have a sort of mercenary "father figure" in control.
It's a primitive survival instinct. They go along with the Alpha male, to get along. Back in the Stone Age, the tribes that survived were the ones that acted in unison on direction from the witch doctor. Now it's 2013 and this same hardwiring prevents them using reason, and critical thinking skills. They still require a witch doctor to tell them what to think. A liberal back in the Stone Age, was the one that kept is mouth shut even though he realized the witch doctor was full of crap. Then you have this oversized portion of their lower brain that deals with fear and feelings of disgust. That prevents many of them from seeing past skin color. Whereas liberals have larger area of the brain that deals with higher brain functions of sorting out conflicting stimuli.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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It's a primitive survival instinct. They go along with the Alpha male, to get along. Back in the Stone Age, the tribes that survived were the ones that acted in unison on direction from the witch doctor. Now it's 2013 and this same hardwiring prevents them using reason, and critical thinking skills. They still require a witch doctor to tell them what to think. A liberal back in the Stone Age, was the one that kept is mouth shut even though he realized the witch doctor was full of crap.
I think having a leader is a normal instinct of the group, otherwise things wouldn't get done, and what would ensue is a chaotic situation. What I don't think is normal is having a leader that is authoritarian. An authoritarian is a person that dictates policies and procedures without any meaningful participation by the subordinates. I think an example of the difference is

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An authoritarian leadership style is being used when a leader who dictates policies and procedures, decides what goals are to be achieved, and directs and controls all activities without any meaningful participation by the subordinates.[1]

Authoritarian leaders are commonly referred to as autocratic leaders. They provide clear expectations for what needs to be done, when it should be done, and how it should be done. There is also a clear divide between the leader and the followers. [2]Authoritarian leaders make decisions independently with little or no input from the rest of the group. Authoritarian leaders uphold stringent control over their followers by directly regulating rules, methodologies, and actions. Authoritarian leaders construct gaps and build distance between themselves and their followers with the intention of stressing role distinctions. [3] Authoritarian leadership typically fosters little creativity in decision-making. Lewin also found that it is more difficult to move from an authoritarian style to a democratic style than from a democratic form to an authoritarian form of leadership. Abuse of this style is usually viewed as controlling, bossy and dictatorial. Authoritarian leadership is best applied to situations where there is little time for group discussion.[2]

A common belief of many authoritarian leaders is that followers require direct supervision at all times or else they would not operate effectively.[3] This belief is in accordance with one of Douglas McGregor's philosophical views of humankind, Theory X. This theory proposes that it is a leaders role to coerce and control followers, because people have an inherent aversion for work and will abstain from it whenever possible. Theory X also postulates that people must be compelled through force, intimidation or authority, and controlled, directed, or threatened with punishment in order to get them to accomplish the organizational needs. [4] In the minds of authoritarian leaders, people who are left to work autonomously will ultimately be unproductive. “Examples of authoritarian communicative behavior include a police officer directing traffic, a teacher ordering a student to do his or her assignment, and a supervisor instructing a subordinate to clean a workstation.” [3]
Communication Patterns of Authoritarian Leadership: [3]
  • Downward, one-way communication (i.e. leaders to followers, or supervisors to subordinates)
  • Controls discussion with followers
  • Dominates interaction
  • Independently/unilaterally sets policy and procedures
  • Individually directs the completion of tasks
  • Does not offer constant feedback
  • Rewards acquiescent obedient behavior and punishes erroneous actions
  • Poor listener
  • Uses conflict for individual gain

Authoritarian leadership style - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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There's a huge difference between the styles of an ordinary leader, and an autocratic leader. Autocratic leaders are what right wingers seek, want, need and cherish. They are afraid and fearful if their leader is not autocratic. Fear rules the motivations of right wingers. They require a domineering father figure, not an equitable leader.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:57 AM
 
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I wonder the same thing OP. this partisan politics is only dividing this nation. I know people that is has to be totally one way or totally the other. I have friends that think Republicans are great Democrats are evil, and vice versa. They vote for someone based on his or her party. When you think like this you miss the big picture of what's really going on.
Me personally, I'm pro-gun, pro-choice, pro- gay marriage, pro-military, pro-labor union, anti-big business, I support the legalization of marijuana and the de-criminalization of drugs, I'm for religious freedom which includes freedom FROM religion, against illegal immigration, (if you want to come here do it the way our ancestors did, also we speak English here, either speak it or get out, I should not have to learn Spanish because of you), I support capital punishment, I believe parents & teachers should be able to spank children, I am against the patriot act, SOPA, PIPA, or any other spying on civilians.
That's all I can think for now, I'm sure I'm crossing some party lines
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:03 AM
 
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I wonder the same thing OP. this partisan politics is only dividing this nation. I know people that is has to be totally one way or totally the other. I have friends that think Republicans are great Democrats are evil, and vice versa. They vote for someone based on his or her party. When you think like this you miss the big picture of what's really going on.
Me personally, I'm pro-gun, pro-choice, pro- gay marriage, pro-military, pro-labor union, anti-big business, I support the legalization of marijuana and the de-criminalization of drugs, I'm for religious freedom which includes freedom FROM religion, against illegal immigration, (if you want to come here do it the way our ancestors did, also we speak English here, either speak it or get out, I should not have to learn Spanish because of you), I support capital punishment, I believe parents & teachers should be able to spank children, I am against the patriot act, SOPA, PIPA, or any other spying on civilians.
That's all I can think for now, I'm sure I'm crossing some party lines
That's really where I fall as well, but I'm against capital punishment on practical grounds, costly, innocents wrongly put to death, etc.

But what do you mean you are pro-gun? I don't consider myself pro gun but I hunt. I don't care if guns are regulated more so, that's Constitutional. What makes you pro gun?

Also I'm anti-war. And anti-interventionist. Anti affirmative action
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:56 PM
 
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I wonder the same thing OP. this partisan politics is only dividing this nation. I know people that is has to be totally one way or totally the other. I have friends that think Republicans are great Democrats are evil, and vice versa. They vote for someone based on his or her party. When you think like this you miss the big picture of what's really going on.
Me personally, I'm pro-gun, pro-choice, pro- gay marriage, pro-military, pro-labor union, anti-big business, I support the legalization of marijuana and the de-criminalization of drugs, I'm for religious freedom which includes freedom FROM religion, against illegal immigration, (if you want to come here do it the way our ancestors did, also we speak English here, either speak it or get out, I should not have to learn Spanish because of you), I support capital punishment, I believe parents & teachers should be able to spank children, I am against the patriot act, SOPA, PIPA, or any other spying on civilians.
That's all I can think for now, I'm sure I'm crossing some party lines
You're right. It's crazy that we have to either be one way or the other.

I'm anti-gun, pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-limitary (but don't spend all our money on it), pro-labor, anti-big business, I'm for decriminalization of drugs, for freedom from religion, against porn, against the immigration of those who take high-paying jobs, against exporting jobs abroad and so on.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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That's really where I fall as well, but I'm against capital punishment on practical grounds, costly, innocents wrongly put to death, etc.

But what do you mean you are pro-gun? I don't consider myself pro gun but I hunt. I don't care if guns are regulated more so, that's Constitutional. What makes you pro gun?

Also I'm anti-war. And anti-interventionist. Anti affirmative action
I'm pro-gun because I believe law abiding citizens have the right to bear arms in order to over-throw the government and defend themselves if need be. Other than background checks they do NOT need to be regulated more
I'm also anti-affirmative action & the Iraq war was a waste
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:50 PM
 
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I'm pro-gun because I believe law abiding citizens have the right to bear arms in order to over-throw the government and defend themselves if need be. Other than background checks they do NOT need to be regulated more
Exactly, they already do extensive background checks in most states and at gun shows. The culture is what needs to be fixed, although the left will completely ignore that
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:50 PM
 
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You're right. It's crazy that we have to either be one way or the other.

I'm anti-gun, pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-limitary (but don't spend all our money on it), pro-labor, anti-big business, I'm for decriminalization of drugs, for freedom from religion, against porn, against the immigration of those who take high-paying jobs, against exporting jobs abroad and so on.
Damn except for the guns we're pretty much alike
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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I'm pro-gun because I believe law abiding citizens have the right to bear arms in order to over-throw the government and defend themselves if need be. Other than background checks they do NOT need to be regulated more
Yes, of course, those guns will beat stealth and UASs anytime. Ahem.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:01 PM
 
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It's a primitive survival instinct. They go along with the Alpha male, to get along. Back in the Stone Age, the tribes that survived were the ones that acted in unison on direction from the witch doctor. Now it's 2013 and this same hardwiring prevents them using reason, and critical thinking skills. They still require a witch doctor to tell them what to think. A liberal back in the Stone Age, was the one that kept is mouth shut even though he realized the witch doctor was full of crap. Then you have this oversized portion of their lower brain that deals with fear and feelings of disgust. That prevents many of them from seeing past skin color. Whereas liberals have larger area of the brain that deals with higher brain functions of sorting out conflicting stimuli.
Do you really believe this garbage? On one hand the Republican party is splintered apart and on the other hand Republicans follow the leader? Liberals are better at critical thinking skills, and yet they institute hate speech codes at places of higher learning specifically to prohibit free speech? They declare Republicans racist and yet their policies to help blacks have resulted in blacks having higher poverty, higher school dropout rates, higher unemployment, higher drug use, and higher crime than before their policies were enacted? Republicans follow the leader but there are videos of school kids singing Obama praises or celebrities declaring loyalty to him? The people who want to remain true to the constitution are "prevented from using reason", but the country which followed the constitution became the greatest economic and military power in history? Seriously, man, you don't make sense.
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