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Old 02-23-2013, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Do you have information information on any American who is the victim of an enforced disappearance?
DUH!!! That's the whole point. When the government has the power to disappear you without any need to notify anyone then tens of thousands could vanish and no one would have a clue where, when or how. All it requires is some nameless bureaucrat in some nameless government department suspecting you might be a terrorist and YOU ARE GONE.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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I don't think we've lost many freedoms. At this point, we are about as free in our daily lives as citizens in any other modern developed nation. There isn't much I can think of on a daily basis that I want to do and can't.
Take a string and pole to the water and try to catch a fish without a government license and see how quick before you get fined/arrested.

But you're free. As long as you don't want to eat.

Or try and ride a bicycle without government approved headgear. But we are all free. lols.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:35 PM
 
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I've had a driver's license for decades across 3 states.
This year I'm up for renewal again. But this year I have to show up with about 8 forms of identity to prove that I am who I am and have been for all these years.

Our government is running so scared that soon no one will be able to prove who they are because all forms of identity will be suspect.

I'm in the schools. I've gone through e-verify to get that state sanctioned school teacher's ID with a photo. But no..not good enough to go along with my license.
There's definitely a lot more paperwork. It should be easier to get a passport than a gun.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:55 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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So, thus far since my post, the 'rights' Americans have lost appear to be: the right for children to enjoy menthol cigarettes, and licensing requirements for interstate truckers?
I guess we can now add fishing without a license and riding a bicycle without a helmet (depending on which state you are in and mostly for children).

Quite an impressive list
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:00 AM
 
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Many more...but here's a few.
Look at law regarding the protesting near government buildings which give the secret service more power to apply trespass. 'God' on money. Anti-bigamy laws for religions. Lots of infringement on the second amendment--1934, 1968, 1986, 1991, 1994 GCA/AWBs at the federal level to name a few; more than could list at state/local levels. The fourth amendment regarding search and seizure--one of the latest is that police don't need cause/warrants within 100 miles of the US border to take electronic devices (phones, computers). At the state level a state supreme court upheld that game wardens can profile people as hunters based on wearing camoflauge or driving certain vehicles. Bail enforcement includes a pretty much open ended fill in the blank warrant as long as the enforcer has probable cause (not presented to judge). Camera monitoring devices used by police that can view beyond public space. When items are seized for law enfocement investigation, some, can be returned to the owner after being cleared for market price (e.g. if a game warden seizes your gun for ballistic testing and you are cleared...you have to buy it back from them)--which is violating the fifth. The Patriot Act--that thing is rife with right stomping. NDAA of 2012.
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:46 AM
 
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The government is arguing right now that they can ignore your due process rights. The administration refuses to even discuss this. Luckily there is a case in the courts right now that will hopefully stop this in it's tracks.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:24 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Take a string and pole to the water and try to catch a fish without a government license and see how quick before you get fined/arrested.

But you're free. As long as you don't want to eat.

Or try and ride a bicycle without government approved headgear. But we are all free. lols.
See this is the point people miss. Seriously, why does one need a hunting,or fishing license? Or a marriage license?
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:30 AM
 
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I had not thought of 'fishing license' as being part of 'rights lost'.

Even as a youth in the 1960s fishing licenses were required (at least, my father had to have one, while I guess I did not until I was 12 or so). Yet, it makes some sense: Texas only has one 'natural' lake, while all the others are man-made, and had to be stocked with fish. I assume that the fishing license fees go towards stocking the lakes, maintaining the public boat ramps, paying for the game wardens, etc.

I do seem to recall that for many years fishing in natural rivers did not require a fishing license, though I believe one is now required.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:34 AM
 
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Frog In A Pot - YouTube This explains it ALL!
This is what "progressivism" means... It's what it is all about...
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:39 AM
 
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Not once did he mention anything against responsible citizens hunting or defending their own homes from intruders.
Because any politician would actually say this to a nations civilians.....

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