Does the refusal to date outside of one's race make you a racist? (fence, rating)

[stargazzer]

Originally Posted by filihok

Perhaps. But a refusal to date outside one's race is racist. By definition.

superiority is relative so nothing conclusive can be attached.

[filihok]

Originally Posted by stargazzer

thats total baloney and not even worth explaining.

You can't explain why it's baloney, because it is totally true.

[StabbyAbby]

Dating isn't supposed to be equal opportunity.

[filihok]

Originally Posted by StabbyAbby

Dating isn't supposed to be equal opportunity.

I don't believe anyone has made that claim.

Refusal to date based on race, is still racist.

[zombieApocExtraordinaire]

Originally Posted by filihok

I don't believe anyone has made that claim.

Refusal to date based on race, is still racist.

I agree with you here. If your criteria is race, then that's a racist criteria.

If your criteria is physical attraction, and that happens to exclude 99% of a certain race then that's not racist.

It really depends on how you frame it. That being said, people should be left unmolested to pick their mates and in this society "racist" carries negative connotation so I avoid labeling it to people who want to pick their mate, even if one of their criteria is race.

[lycos679]

Originally Posted by filihok

I don't believe anyone has made that claim.

Refusal to date based on race, is still racist.

But what if you are only attracted to one race? Is that still racist? I don't think it is... I can see refusing to date someone you like because of their race as racist, but maybe the subtle nuances are lost on me.

[zombieApocExtraordinaire]

Originally Posted by lycos679

But what if you are only attracted to one race? Is that still racist? I don't think it is... I can see refusing to date someone you like because of their race as racist, but maybe the subtle nuances are lost on me.

The nuance here is the frame:

I don't date black people.

That's racist because it doesn't allow for the fact you might like or be attracted to a black person. You're automatically ruling them out by their race.

Saying this on the other hand:

I don't date people I'm not attracted to, for whatever reason I'm not attracted to most black people.

Is not necessarily racist. It's a physical preference. You prefer certain features found in one race over the other.

That's the nuance.

[michiganmoon]

Originally Posted by WestCobb

I say no. I think it's perfectly reasonable to have dating racial preferences. It doesn't mean you're a racist. What do you think?

I would say no to "preference", but probably to "refusal."

Most humans have a preference...personality, eye color, shape, hair color, hair length, culture, dress, career, religion, nice teeth, values, politics etc...

I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with having a preference or attraction for a certain type. I do think there could be with refusal.

[StabbyAbby]

Originally Posted by filihok

I don't believe anyone has made that claim.

Refusal to date based on race, is still racist.

So what if it is? People are entitled to be as picky and discriminatory in their dating choices as they please.

If a heterosexual man refuses to date other men, no one accuses him of being "sexist".

[filihok]

Originally Posted by StabbyAbby

So what if it is? People are entitled to be as picky and discriminatory in their dating choices as they please.

If a heterosexual man refuses to date other men, no one accuses him of being "sexist".

Have I made any indication that people were not entitled to be as picky and discriminatory in their dating choices as they pleased?