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Old 12-04-2013, 04:10 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC View Post
This is not an Obamacare thread. This is a correction to the record that liberals keep spewing.



What Obama Really Meant When He Said 'If You Like Your Plan, You Can Keep It'

No, HuffPo, that promise has not been broken. Instead, that LIE HAS BEEN EXPOSED!

Broken Promise vs a Lie.

A broken promise = not working out as planned.

A lie = A willful and intentional effort to mislead and deceive.

If the repeated proclamation of "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period." was a broken promise, the President would be able to show that his Administration made legitimate efforts to honor the President's word.

Instead, the President told a bald-faced lie. Everyone, including him, knew that people would not be able to "keep their plan" if they "liked it." His Administration crafted the rules to make his proclamation IMPOSSIBLE for millions!

So lets be clear, liberals. BARACK OBAMA IS A BALD FACED LIAR.

This is his "No New Taxes" moment and it will be hitched to his legacy forever.
I agree with you; a "bald faced lie." And it wasn't the only one. More (such as "... you can keep your doctor") soon to come.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:11 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Why should we "get over it" when our President lies? This is very serious. He has no credibility.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:11 PM
 
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It all depends on what "period" means. It's like, it all depends on what "is" means. LOL
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:13 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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It's over. You are beating a dead horse, jumping the shark. It is becoming another "Benghazi" for you. No one outside of the fringe right is paying attention anymore. Give it up.
The "fringe" right? Well over half of Americans describe themselves as at least "somehwhat conservative," and we are "fringe?"
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Sometimes you need to be reminded that you are not more patriotic,you are not a better American than a Democrat. You are a person just like the rest of us and no better than anyone else.
Wrong. The Right are more patriotic. The Left is trying to destroy this country.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:32 PM
 
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Who cares, get over it, move on.
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It's over. You are beating a dead horse, jumping the shark. It is becoming another "Benghazi" for you. No one outside of the fringe right is paying attention anymore. Give it up.



Nothing but "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" responses.


It was never a promise as it was always a lie.
Yes, the lie matters greatly.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:36 PM
 
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC View Post
This is not an Obamacare thread. This is a correction to the record that liberals keep spewing.



What Obama Really Meant When He Said 'If You Like Your Plan, You Can Keep It'

No, HuffPo, that promise has not been broken. Instead, that LIE HAS BEEN EXPOSED!

Broken Promise vs a Lie.

A broken promise = not working out as planned.

A lie = A willful and intentional effort to mislead and deceive.

If the repeated proclamation of "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period." was a broken promise, the President would be able to show that his Administration made legitimate efforts to honor the President's word.

Instead, the President told a bald-faced lie. Everyone, including him, knew that people would not be able to "keep their plan" if they "liked it." His Administration crafted the rules to make his proclamation IMPOSSIBLE for millions!

So lets be clear, liberals. BARACK OBAMA IS A BALD FACED LIAR.

This is his "No New Taxes" moment and it will be hitched to his legacy forever.



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Actually it's the republicans who are counting on people not understanding. Almost every thread submitted by republicans on C-D is misleading, biased or down right untrue. Every posted thread by republicans is designed to mislead for the purpose to kill the ACA and hang the president from the nearest tree at the soonest possibility.

I would probably be speechless in surprise if there appeared one thread from a republican offering an actual PLAN on how to fix the economy, how to stop the health care crisis in the nation and how to stimulate the economy and jobs.





Here's the OP as it seems you missed it on the first page (first post too!).

Obama intentionally deceived the American People.
Knowingly and willfully.

Posters deceiving (allegedly) or the President proven deceiving deliberately, no comparison at all.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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So you're saying the regulations on new insurance plans were passed for fun? Do you honestly believe Obama meant for the ACA to have zero effect?

Let's say you're a married man and your wife says "If you like your car you can keep it". Then a year later you can go out and trade in your Camry for a Corvette, and then when she gets mad you say "But you said if I like my car I can keep it, and I like my Corvette!"

That's exactly what is going on here. Your wife didn't say "If you like any car you ever get in the future you can keep it".
You are squabbling over semantics. Consensus is that when Obama made his statement, it was made for the present and for the future. To believe otherwise is like putting blinders on.

As for the car issue, oddly enough my wife killed a deal to trade our Yukon for something a bit more practical. So when my year of ownership of my Volt is up, I will trade for whatever I want since she is not on the title as she is on the Yukon. And there is not thing one she can do about it.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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Me too.

Fortunately for him, Obama's parents are dead and buried. But I am sure if they were alive, they would concur with your post.

Well, except for the part about raising him. Both of them seemed more interested in 'making babies' instead of 'raising babies', and yes, there is a difference.




Obama's mother might want to talk to him about lying about her during the push for Obamacare to his
benefit.




Or maybe she would have approved of the deception.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:58 PM
 
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Obama's mother might want to talk to him about lying about her during the push for Obamacare to his
benefit.

Or maybe she would have approved of the deception.
She would probably approve. As they say the apple never falls far from the tree. What ever it takes to get his way even if it means lying.
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