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Old 03-22-2013, 06:39 AM
 
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...anyone with subnormal intelligence knows that Hannity is a witless fool who will say whatever appeals to his audience of mouthbreathers. The little twerp has no credibility with anyone outside of the Fox family.

You should expect this kind of hyperpartisan hypocrisy from Fox because that's what they do. Incessantly.
I agree with your post. Hannity doesn't know what he is talking about pertaining to Cruz.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Who are you to determine who is experienced in citizenship laws of the U.S.?
He's a voter. They are the ultimate arbiters on everyone and everything.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Don Nickles, former Oaklahoma Senator, tried to help his friend John McCain with a Constitutional amendment in 2004, to make the overseas-born children of citizens natural born citizens. It failed to pass.
Actually, it died in committee. Like 90% of all bills do.

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The rejection of this bill to pass is proof that children born overseas not within the jurisdiction of the United States are not natural born Citizens, but rather statutory Citizens who are not eligible for Article 2 Section 1, the qualification to be president.
No it's not. It's just a bill that died in committee. Like 90% of all bills do.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:50 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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... is a witless fool ....... audience of mouthbreathers. The little twerp.



Exactly how old are you?
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Exactly how old are you?
Old enough to recognize fools, mouthbreathers, and twerps.

You?
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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No it's not Obama's case. Obama was born in the United States, Ted Cruz wasn't.
Spoiler
To make it even worse the birthers themselves admit Obama's mother was a citizen, but that's not enough they say because he wasn't born here.

And you don't have to be a natural born citizen to be elected to Congress
This is the part I enjoy...

So many people regard the country as AMERICA, referring to America 'this', America 'that', America America America... but... BUT... now that someone wouldn't want a citizen to be qualified to be President it suddenly becomes The United States.

Ted Cruz was born in Canada. His mother was a U.S. citizen. Not only is Cruz an AMERICAN, he was born a U.S. citizen as his mother was a citizen - the same criteria I use to justify Obama's qualification. Like, he wasn't even born in AMERICA, just an island in the Pacific but to a U.S. citizen.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:44 AM
 
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Like, he wasn't even born in AMERICA, just an island in the Pacific but to a U.S. citizen.

Hawaii became a State in 1959. Barack was born in 1961. He was born in AMERICA.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:46 AM
 
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The only "address" the court was permitted, was, is Kim a U.S. citizen? Dicta stinketh.
It wasn't dicta.


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From a dicta premise, they were falsely premisized. Pyramiding of dicta doesn't "create" law.
And please post your Legal education to support your opinion.

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The court came to no such "agreement"
Yes they did.

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Your Wong Premise is slanted.
OVER 1000 court cases that reference Wong Kim Ark concerning citizenship, says I'm not.

I'll take the word of the courts over you any day.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:47 AM
 
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Good post. These anti-American Obama lovers who want Article 2 Section 1 subverted are hell bent on obfuscating the true facts of what a true natural born Citizen is.
nothing in his post was "good". The only ones that are perverting the definition of Citizenship here are birthers. True facts? You've been caught posting lies from birthers. So you wouldn't know a true fact if it hit you upside the head.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:05 AM
 
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It is Soetoro. The issue is not whether these people are citizens or not, the issue is Natural Born Citizenship, as a requirement for President of the United States. That is a very special category, which requires, born on US soil, to TWO citizen parents. Dual citizenship is a disqualification for Natural Born Citizenship because it suggest dual allegiance. It's really very simple, I don't know why so many can't get it right, including dopes like Hannity.
I don't buy that, if being born on US soil was what they meant, then why not just say "US born citizen?"
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