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Old 03-30-2013, 07:16 AM
 
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Questions for pro-choicers---how many abortions have you had? Plus there are no unwanted kids. There will be some parents who want them. They may need to fight tons of red tape but they want them.
Really? There are about 400,000 children in the system right now. There were only 150,000 adoptions in a whole year. That includes inter family, and out of country adoptions.

Where are the people who want these kids?
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:19 AM
 
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Adopting kids is a very long, complicated, frustrating and expensive process.
And?
Is that your excuse?
Pretty lame.

But, christians are hypocrites of the highest order so it comes as no surprise.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:23 AM
 
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Adopting kids is a very long, complicated, frustrating and expensive process.
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U.S. Newborn Adoption - Average Wait Time

Average time from preparation of portfolio to match with
birthmother (includes time spent in false starts):
Less than 3 months....................34%
4 to 6 months............................19%
7 to 12 months...........................20%
13 to 24 months.........................17%
Longer than 24 months...............10%

Time between birth and legal finalization:
Less than 6 months....................54%
7 to 12 months...........................38%
Longer than 12 months..................8%

35% of respondents experienced at least one false start.
15% were matched after the child had already been born.


U.S. Foster Adoption Wait Times

Average time from foster certification to placement of child ultimately adopted:
Less than 6 months....................48%
7 to 12 months...........................18%
13 to 18 months...........................9%
Longer than 18 months................25%

Time between placement and finalization:
Less than 6 months.....................15%
7 to 12 months............................33%
13 to 18 months..........................19%
19 to 24 months..........................15%
Longer than 2 years.....................18%

48% finalized the child's adoption within one year.
Another 33% finalized within two years.
34% had placements that did not end in adoption.
Latest Adoption Cost and Wait Time Data | Adoption Cost and Wait Time Data

Your statement doesn't seem to match the stats.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:38 AM
 
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Question for the pro-choicers: When will you be euthanizing your parents?

65? 70? When they become a burden?



Also: what made you so damn special that you had to be carried to term - the world was going along just fine without you.....
So zero then? Again, just what I thought.

If abortion = murder, then you are at least guilty of child neglect. If you're so concerned about all these poor souls, go down to an orphanage and build a meaningful relationship with one that did make it. If the biological parents have no interest in raising the child, who should? Clearly you don't want to...
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:00 AM
 
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From a practical familiar tribal point of view...It is about the blood. Recently my brother mentioned that his son who has a girlfriend who is much older than him..(he is a very tall young man who looks like he is 20) - the fact is he is only 15...He has a very shrewd girlfriend who is 19...I heard a rumor..that this young woman is not from a good back ground..she is bright but has proved to be dishonest.

Also- I heard that this young woman might be pregnant. Well we had a quiet family discussion. We are pro-life in every respect except for one...If the family are taken for suckers...If it is true that the possible child to be belongs to the young boy..Then the family will offer full support...If a DNA test is run and we find out that the child to be is not from the young boy- It would be best to "get rid of it" _When a woman deceives and abuses her reproductive ability to gain some sort of control...Then that is the deal breaker.

You can abort who every you want- Just don't abort one of ours..so my pro-life stance is tribal and personal...If the child is not part of the family..then good bye "fetus".
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Understood. You're vehemently pro-life unless it's inconvenient for you.
Isn't that always the way it is? Only 'my' abortion is appropriate. I wonder just how many 'conservative christians' have had abortions; have encouraged their girlfriends/wives/mistresses/daughters to have abortions because it was convenient for them.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:04 AM
 
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Questions for pro-choicers---how many abortions have you had? Plus there are no unwanted kids. There will be some parents who want them. They may need to fight tons of red tape but they want them.
Calling BS on this one. There are hundreds of thousands of unwanted kids. Adopt one if your convictions are so deep. I suggest a deeply troubled teen-ager for starters. Let's see what you can do.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:07 AM
 
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actually if you read the hebrew version of the 10 commandments, it does not say "thou shall not kill".

it says "thou shall not commit murder".
Yes, indeed.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:10 AM
 
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And?
Is that your excuse?
Pretty lame.

But, christians are hypocrites of the highest order so it comes as no surprise.
What do I need an excuse for? If I said I was against capital punishement, shold that mean I need to have a convicted murdered living in my basement? No. And being pro-life does not mean one must adopt kids.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:11 AM
 
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My statement matches personal experience.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:13 AM
 
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My statement matches personal experience.
Obviously not the common persons experience.
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