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Old 04-08-2013, 07:41 PM
 
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I'm giving you scientific facts. I'm only the messenger. Racial groups have different IQ levels, IQ levels have a high degree of correlation with poverty rates, and crime levels. Sorry if you can't handle the truth. I'm a liberal, I believe in having strong social programs, but I'm not going to sugar coat scientific facts, just because mean natured racists are going to twist this reality around for their purposes.
racist!
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Houston
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racist!
If you factor out the bastardization rate you will find whites, blacks, asians and hispanics average IQ is about the same.
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:54 PM
 
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Unfortunately (for you) these numbers come from FBI
I understand that California and Illinois (aka Obamastan) turn on the "hate-o-meter" of conservatives and so-called libertarians, but let's face it: red states are more violent.
P.S. you should love most liberal democratic "hellholes": without them, USA economy would be actually less strong.
geeze you left out a slew of gun free zone where killings are cheap... i said nothing about the economy either and you are just plain wrong. But that was lost in 1933 with the gold std and FDR a democrat did that.

If you were not handling money in 1957 you have never so much as held a dollar once in your life.

Are you 60?

I have family in PR and i have been there and i know that place is gun free...... I also know you better have eyes in the back of your head and if you are female you go no where alone in the day time.

I have family in and around DC and have been there. Once a guy ever tried to rib me there, but that end with him on his knees begging for his life because i had a gun and he didn't......



I don't get toyed with very much after dark..

My NH permit isn't valid in DC either, but I would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

FBI means nothing. I have spoken with the FBI a few times. They tried to tell me the Boston Office has no called ID.... i was born at night but not last night.

Everyone with any sense knows it is rat hole hell democratic slums where the violent crime is, and you can pretend all you like about the crank maps and i won't care....

The NH number is off too. We just don't have that much crime here.... The whole data is screwed.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:03 PM
 
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If you factor out the bastardization rate you will find whites, blacks, asians and hispanics average IQ is about the same.
I know people in different races and of them they are all intelligent. more so than many here on CD.

As i see things there is only lone real liberal here on CD. The rest are just democrats with talking points that don't converse, won't hear, can't reason, and just repeat verbatim the party line which is nothing more than a pack of lies.

None of the threads based on anything to do with guns are even real. The whole point is the agenda to ban and confiscate ALL GUNS.

That isn't going to happen in the USA for at least another 100 years if ever. I can say this because my 4 year old grandson has a Dad i trained to shoot, and he plans to teach is son as i did.

The grabbers alive today will not live so long to see their dream fail going down in flames because once the CONS is gone and the guns with it so will all Freedom.

That just isn't going to happen so long as legal gun owners own legal guns.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:56 PM
 
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I would say culture has alot to do with it.
I would say demographics and large population centers has more to do with it. Vermont and New Hampshire have no large cities.
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Most white States

Maine
Vermont
New Hampshire
West Virginia
Iowa
North Dakota
Wyoming
Idaho
Montana
Kentucky

Lowest Murder Rate States


Maine 2.0 1.8 2.0 2.4 1.6 1.7 1.4 1.4 1.2 1.1 1.4 1.2 2.2 2 2 2
Utah 1.9 1.9 1.4 1.4 2.2 1.8 2.3 1.9 2.5 2 3 1.9 2.1 3.1 2.4 3.2
Iowa 1.5 1.2 1.3 2.5 1.2 1.8 1.3 1.6 1.6 1.5 1.7 1.6 1.5 1.9 1.8 1.9
Minnesota 1.4 1.8 1.4 2.1 2.2 2.4 2.2 2.2 2.5 2.2 2.4 3.1 2.8 2.6 2.8 3.6
Rhode Island 1.3 2.8 3.0 2.8 1.8 2.6 3.2 2.4 2.3 3.8 3.7 4.3 3.6 2.4 2.5 2.5
Vermont 1.3 1.1 1.3 2.7 1.9 1.9 1.3 2.6 2.3 2.1 1.1 1.5 2.9 2.6 1.5 1.9
New Hampshire 1.3 1.0 0.8 1 1.1 1 1.4 1.4 1.4 0.9 1.4 1.8 1.5 1.5 1.4 1.7
Hawaii 1.2 1.8 1.8 1.9 1.7 1.6 1.9 2.6 1.7 1.9 2.6 2.9 3.7 2 4 3.4

So what states out perform here? The Red State of Utah. (Mormons) They have a good share of non whites and they have a low murder rate. Then you have the not so white, liberal states of Hawaii, Rhode Island, Minnesota all making the low murder rate top ten.

All 5, Red States on the most white top ten list, didn't make the top ten lowest murder rate list.

Just more evidence. Liberal states are less violent than Red States, accounting for race.
I call bs. All the murders in conservative states are happening in liberal cities that are overwhelmingly black. Alabama-Birmingham louisiana -New orleans etc. States that r conservative and whose major cities are conservative have low murder rates.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:52 AM
 
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I call bs. All the murders in conservative states are happening in liberal cities that are overwhelmingly black. Alabama-Birmingham louisiana -New orleans etc. States that r conservative and whose major cities are conservative have low murder rates.
Garbage.
Come on, it's not hard to understand; even blue states with low (as well as not-so-high) murder rates have those "evil" liberal cities... in fact blue states have even more liberal cities
Come on, there are several low-crime cities, and they - as the vast majority of urban centers - don't vote R.
If you were right, Iowa, Colorado, Connecticut, Massachussets, Minnesota, Rhode Island, Hawaii, Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire would have higher crime rates while Oklahoma, Alabama and South Carolina would have lower ones.
Also, let's face it: cities such as Birmingham and Salt Lake City may vote D, but if they were located in Massachussets and California they would be called conservative strongholds.
Democratic doesn't equal Liberal.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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So the most homogeneous states are the ones with the lowest murder rates......


Color me shocked
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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This is a non-copyrighted map patched together from public information and a Wikipedia blank outline:



This is the entire reported murder rate, not just firearm homicides. I don't think we can actually draw many correlations between gun laws and the overall murder rate from this, except to note that states with loose gun laws are not necessarily doing well in the murder rankings, and states with more restrictions are not necessarily doing well, either. There seem to be other factors at work here.

Also, congrats to Canada for having the lowest national murder rate of any independent nation in all of the Americas, from Tierra del Fuego to the ice cap.
It needs to be pointed out that this is the overall MURDER RATE and not The murder by firearm rate too.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:07 AM
 
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Not necessarily. North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho, Utah, and Montana are red states and they aren't particularly violent states.
You mean that there are people who live in the middle of nowhere?




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