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Old 04-18-2013, 07:46 AM
 
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And whom do you expect will clear up exactly why he was deported? We deserve to know EVERYTHING about this guy they deported. From what they found in his apartment, to the hospital, to his family connections and so on. Will we? Depends on the media. They need to ask the questions. But they wont and you know they wont. So will we ever find out through sources you would be happy with?
Perhaps a quick look at the Arabic sources should raise the eyebrows of every American relative to the extent of the problem at hand. Many from Al-Harbi’s clan are steeped in terrorism and are members of Al-Qaeda. Out of a list of 85 terrorists listed by the Saudi government shows several of Al-Harbi clan to have been active fighters in Al-Qaeda:
#15 Badr Saud Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
#73 Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
#26 Khalid Salim Uwaid Al-Lahibi Al-Harbi
#29 Raed Abdullah Salem Al-Thahiri Al-Harbi
#43 Abdullah Abdul Rahman Muhammad Al-Harbi (leader)
#60 Fayez Ghuneim Humeid Al-Hijri Al-Harbi

Source: http://aalhameed1.net/vb/showthread.php?t=1565
Then you have Al-Harbi clan members in Gitmo:
Salim Salman Awadallah Al-Sai’di Al-Harbi
Majid Abdullah Hussein Al-Harbi
Muhammad Abdullah Saqr Al-Alawi Al-Harbi
Ghanem Abdul Rahman Ghanem Al-Harbi
Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awfi Al-Harbi

Source: http://www.muslm.net/vb/showthread.php?169019-أسماء-(90)-سعودياً-لا-زالوا-محتجزين-في-جوانتانامو

“Innocent” Saudi has ties to several Al-Qaeda Terrorists | Walid Shoebat

 
Old 04-18-2013, 07:47 AM
 
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And your reference would be Benghazi right? That was a clusterf*ck by our own government.
you bet it was, and Obama thru Hillary under the bus...
 
Old 04-18-2013, 07:48 AM
 
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And whom do you expect will clear up exactly why he was deported? We deserve to know EVERYTHING about this guy they deported. From what they found in his apartment, to the hospital, to his family connections and so on. Will we? Depends on the media. They need to ask the questions. But they wont and you know they wont. So will we ever find out through sources you would be happy with?
What questions do you want answered? I'm sure the FBI asked all the right questions and did a thorough search of his apartment. The FBI cleared him and he was released. Of course the Saudi Embassy got involved. When someone finds himself in trouble when outside their own country the first thing they do is to notify their embassy in that country.

Family connections? Not everyone in Saudi Arabia or in the Middle East with his family name is related. It's like saying everyone in the US with the last name "Smith" is related. Do you believe that everyone in the bin Ladin is a terrorist because of OBL?
 
Old 04-18-2013, 07:49 AM
 
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Perhaps a quick look at the Arabic sources should raise the eyebrows of every American relative to the extent of the problem at hand. Many from Al-Harbi’s clan are steeped in terrorism and are members of Al-Qaeda. Out of a list of 85 terrorists listed by the Saudi government shows several of Al-Harbi clan to have been active fighters in Al-Qaeda:
#15 Badr Saud Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
#73 Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
#26 Khalid Salim Uwaid Al-Lahibi Al-Harbi
#29 Raed Abdullah Salem Al-Thahiri Al-Harbi
#43 Abdullah Abdul Rahman Muhammad Al-Harbi (leader)
#60 Fayez Ghuneim Humeid Al-Hijri Al-Harbi

Source: http://aalhameed1.net/vb/showthread.php?t=1565
Then you have Al-Harbi clan members in Gitmo:
Salim Salman Awadallah Al-Sai’di Al-Harbi
Majid Abdullah Hussein Al-Harbi
Muhammad Abdullah Saqr Al-Alawi Al-Harbi
Ghanem Abdul Rahman Ghanem Al-Harbi
Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awfi Al-Harbi

Source: http://www.muslm.net/vb/showthread.php?169019-أسماء-(90)-سعودياً-لا-زالوا-محتجزين-في-جوانتانامو

“Innocent” Saudi has ties to several Al-Qaeda Terrorists | Walid Shoebat
And if we listen to the media/left, we are supposed to just trust the deportation move. How in the hell did we let this guy in our country in the first place? Do we not screen these damn people? Have we learned nothing from our past?
 
Old 04-18-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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What questions do you want answered? I'm sure the FBI asked all the right questions and did a thorough search of his apartment. The FBI cleared him and he was released. Of course the Saudi Embassy got involved. When someone finds himself in trouble when outside their own country the first thing they do is to notify their embassy in that country.

Family connections? Not everyone in Saudi Arabia or in the Middle East with his family name is related. It's like saying everyone in the US with the last name "Smith" is related. Do you believe that everyone in the bin Ladin is a terrorist because of OBL?
Well then they should have no problem providing answers to our questions. Who was this guy? What did they find? Who IS he related to? Explain the deportation rather than let us speculate.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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Perhaps a quick look at the Arabic sources should raise the eyebrows of every American relative to the extent of the problem at hand. Many from Al-Harbi’s clan are steeped in terrorism and are members of Al-Qaeda. Out of a list of 85 terrorists listed by the Saudi government shows several of Al-Harbi clan to have been active fighters in Al-Qaeda:
#15 Badr Saud Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
#73 Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
#26 Khalid Salim Uwaid Al-Lahibi Al-Harbi
#29 Raed Abdullah Salem Al-Thahiri Al-Harbi
#43 Abdullah Abdul Rahman Muhammad Al-Harbi (leader)
#60 Fayez Ghuneim Humeid Al-Hijri Al-Harbi
Source: http://aalhameed1.net/vb/showthread.php?t=1565
Then you have Al-Harbi clan members in Gitmo:
Salim Salman Awadallah Al-Sai’di Al-Harbi
Majid Abdullah Hussein Al-Harbi
Muhammad Abdullah Saqr Al-Alawi Al-Harbi
Ghanem Abdul Rahman Ghanem Al-Harbi
Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awfi Al-Harbi
Source: http://www.muslm.net/vb/showthread.php?169019-أسماء-(90)-سعودياً-لا-زالوا-محتجزين-في-جوانتانامو

“Innocent” Saudi has ties to several Al-Qaeda Terrorists | Walid Shoebat
Key word: clan, AKA, tribe. Do you know how large a clan/tribe can be in the Middle East? Do you understand that members of the tribe leave and travel to other countries (such as Yemen) and the clan continues to grow in name? If the clan consists of 5,000 people, and 100 are terrorists, does that make the remaining 4,900 terrorists???

What exactly are his "ties"? Relatives that committed crimes makes him a criminal? If someone in your family robbed a bank, would that make you and every one else bank robbers as well?

If a man rapes a women, does that mean all his male family members are rapists? If a man kills a woman, does that mean all his family members are potential killers?
 
Old 04-18-2013, 07:55 AM
 
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Key word: clan, AKA, tribe. Do you know how large a clan/tribe can be in the Middle East? Do you understand that members of the tribe leave an travel to other countries and the clan continues to grow in name? If the clan consists of 5,000 people, are they all terrorists???

What exactly are his "ties"? Relatives that committed crimes makes him a criminal? If someone in your family robbed a bank, would that make you and every one else bank robbers as well?
IMO, if he is related to them in any way, he shouldnt have been allowed here in the first place. We should be strict as all hell on who we allow in our country.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 07:57 AM
 
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And if we listen to the media/left, we are supposed to just trust the deportation move. How in the hell did we let this guy in our country in the first place? Do we not screen these damn people? Have we learned nothing from our past?
Well done. You have decided he is a terrorist.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 07:57 AM
 
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And if we listen to the media/left, we are supposed to just trust the deportation move. How in the hell did we let this guy in our country in the first place? Do we not screen these damn people? Have we learned nothing from our past?
Student Visa. Just like half of the 911 terrorists. DHS has been under fire for not shoring up the foreign visa overstays. These guys get their student visa and when it expires they just disappear. Heck they just gave Saudi's favored travel status to enter the US in January. They joined the Global Entry Trusted Traveler Program.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 07:58 AM
 
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Key word: clan, AKA, tribe. Do you know how large a clan/tribe can be in the Middle East? Do you understand that members of the tribe leave and travel to other countries (such as Yemen) and the clan continues to grow in name? If the clan consists of 5,000 people, and 100 are terrorists, does that make the remaining 4,900 terrorists???

What exactly are his "ties"? Relatives that committed crimes makes him a criminal? If someone in your family robbed a bank, would that make you and every one else bank robbers as well?

If a man rapes a women, does that mean all his male family members are rapists? If a man kills a woman, does that mean all his family members are potential killers?
And will your opinion change on this situation if the government soon classifies everything surrounding this man and his deportation? I expect that they will so they dont have to tell us anything.
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