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Old 05-08-2013, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Sorry, but the only men I ever hear complaining about feminists (meaning educated, independent women) are men who don't have much going for them, and they're bitter about a situation that they've had with a woman at some point. My husband has told me repeatedly that he would be bored to death with a woman who didn't ever challenge him, and who couldn't take care of herself. Being shrill has nothing to do with being a feminist. I can't stand that behavior in men either.
Sorry, I'm not complaining about feminists. I'm just commenting on their general attitude toward men.

I also never said a woman should not challenge a man or couldn't take care of herself. Those can be very appealing qualities.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:55 PM
 
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Yeah but building strawmen based on hysterical assumptions and attacking that is easier than having an informative discussion based on facts and the truth.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:59 PM
 
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Sorry, I'm not complaining about feminists. I'm just commenting on their general attitude toward men.

I also never said a woman should not challenge a man or couldn't take care of herself. Those can be very appealing qualities.
Please be alittle more specific. What is their general attitude?
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around who 1 white male= all
how 1 Asian female= all
I can understand if this documentary was supposed to expose 1 man as an asiaphile and 1 woman as someone willing to prostitute herself to such a man. Instead we are led to believe that these 2 individuals represent the sum total.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:26 PM
 
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around who 1 white male= all
how 1 Asian female= all
I can understand if this documentary was supposed to expose 1 man as an asiaphile and 1 woman as someone willing to prostitute herself to such a man. Instead we are led to believe that these 2 individuals represent the sum total.
That's the American way....
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:08 PM
 
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Do you have children? Do you expect your daughters to be submissive to men?
That's a very good point. Even men who want submissive wives, do not want daughters who are submissive, so they (the fathers) teach their daughters NOT to submit to men, thereby creating the next generation of very independent women who will take no sh*t from men.
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around who 1 white male= all
how 1 Asian female= all
I can understand if this documentary was supposed to expose 1 man as an asiaphile and 1 woman as someone willing to prostitute herself to such a man. Instead we are led to believe that these 2 individuals represent the sum total.
That really is the intellectual pitfall of point-of-view journalism. The two individuals profiled in the documentary conform to the narrative the film's creator wants to present. Showing us an example which doesn't match her prior-held beliefs would obviously dilute her rhetoric. As a glimpse into this particular relationship, the story is what it is--a picture of a not very compatible couple--something hardly unique to older white male/younger Asian female relationships.

However, Lum wants to use this specific example to extrapolate her sociopolitical philosophy in regards to gender, and to a lesser extent, racial relations. Note that Lum acted as translator, as well as film maker. So she was pretty much in a position to steer the drama as she saw fit.

At any rate, it's interesting to observe that there are, based upon many of the responses here, so many people out there who deem themselves morally qualified to be the arbiters of other people's relationship choices.
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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I saw the doc today and the girl coudnt wait to get the gc at the beginning... She stayed for a while (prob. Waiting for it)
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:17 PM
 
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around who 1 white male= all
how 1 Asian female= all
I can understand if this documentary was supposed to expose 1 man as an asiaphile and 1 woman as someone willing to prostitute herself to such a man. Instead we are led to believe that these 2 individuals represent the sum total.
No, and I don't think any documentary attempts to say that what they're presenting is the sum total of anything. Documentaries present small snapshots of the situation they discuss. I don't know how you would expect a documentary to show all individuals that are part of the group they're discussing, if the group they're discussing is rather sizable. It'd be impossible.
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:25 PM
 
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Men wouldn't be as thirsty for women and more women would lose the entitlement issue they have, it makes alot of sense. If the marriage rates continues to tank, I'd expect the government to probably do it. Marriage = more money for the economy.
Here's an interesting article on marriage in the U.S. today:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/op...anted=all&_r=0

Looks like those who have money are getting married in greater numbers than those who don't.
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