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Old 05-17-2013, 07:06 AM
 
Location: NJ
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The IRS assault on Americans os the maturing of the whitehouse.gov? attempt to collect the names and emails of people opoosed to obamacare. Remember that incredible error the whitehouse made. They urged people to contact their website with names and emails addresses of people opposed to obamacare!

When the bright light hit them they scurried for cover.

This IRS revelation is a direct result of that ideology where political opponents' names are collected by the government!!!!!! This is the stuff of commie nazi and dictator strategies!!!!!!!

Nothing is in isolation in obamaworld.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:06 AM
 
Location: it depends
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Government agencies have to be fair dealers without favoritism. Anyone who is found to be favoring one group over another should be fired.

To me though this issue is much ado about nothing. Some conservative groups did have to answer questions and wait longer than other groups, but and that is wrong, but the idea that this was the height of scandal is silly. This is a another non issue.

I watched clips of the Glenn Beck show and he brought on two people who represented two of the victimized organizations and the it was literally nothing. They were like they asked us these questions and delayed our approval.

The bottomline is that these organizations are asking the government for favored tax status, they should be scrutinized. We have too many of these phony tax exempt political organizations.
Much ado about nothing....as if our liberties are nothing, and it is OK if a government agency acts to suppress political beliefs.

If Obama was in on this, then it is about a totally corrupt president. If he was not, it is about a totally corrupt system--a machine that is out of control.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:15 AM
 
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I still find it amusing that the carefully crafted talking points being provided to the left leaning contributors consist solely of:

1. No big deal, it never happened
2. Bush appointed the IRS Commissioner (5 years later, and everything wrong in the world is still W's fault)
3. Citizens United sucks

They expect moderates and conservative to ignore the fact that their own Democrat leadership has come out in force stating the actions of the IRS were clearly wrong, and calling for a full investigation and action based on the finding.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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Government agencies have to be fair dealers without favoritism. Anyone who is found to be favoring one group over another should be fired.

To me though this issue is much ado about nothing. Some conservative groups did have to answer questions and wait longer than other groups, but and that is wrong, but the idea that this was the height of scandal is silly. This is a another non issue.

I watched clips of the Glenn Beck show and he brought on two people who represented two of the victimized organizations and the it was literally nothing. They were like they asked us these questions and delayed our approval.

The bottomline is that these organizations are asking the government for favored tax status, they should be scrutinized. We have too many of these phony tax exempt political organizations.
LOL, you agree that it is wrong but you disagree that it's a problem. LOL

Imagine that.

Many of these questions that were asked were illegal to be asked. If as an employer you ask a person about things the government says you can't they come after you. They don't say, yeah that was wrong but really get over it.

No, what you are really saying is that you understand why people are so upset and in a different scenario you realize you would be upset also but you simply wish it would all go away.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:26 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I love how you dont even realize the time frame of this happening, it started in 2010, not 2012. Dont claim to know a time frame when you dont.

burst your little bubble.
Meet the group the IRS actually denied: Democrats! - Salon.com
This kind of thing started way,way before 2010. The IRS has been used as a weapon for years to silence or intimidate those that speak out, just not at this volume or not as blatant.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:28 AM
 
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And it appears it's not about to go away.

Democrat Baucus warns: More to come out on IRS scandal

Senior Democratic Sen. Max Baucus, who recently slapped Obamacare as a "train wreck," believes that the IRS scandal is just beginning and that "a lot more" damaging information will be revealed, likely at congressional hearings.

"I have a hunch that a lot more is going to come out, frankly," Baucus, whose pending retirement seems to have freed him up to speak bluntly, told Bloomberg's "Capitol Gains" TV show.


Democrat Baucus warns: More to come out on IRS scandal | WashingtonExaminer.com
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:31 AM
 
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I have no issue with profiling political groups for investigation, that is not the issue. The issue is they are profiling specific political groups. There is a huge difference between profiling political groups and specific political groups. In the context of your argument it's not even in the same ballbark.
Please expand. What is the difference between profiling political groups and profiling specific political groups? Your definition of "profiling" would be of interest here.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:32 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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They simply HAVE to be the victims. Doesn't matter whether or not the facts bear out their paranoia.
They will ignore all evidence to the contrary and completely ignore any/all examples that don't reinforce their "proof" of singular persecution.

Same old, same old.
You must be talking about the supposed "war" on women and minorities, and other such nonsense fear tactics used by Libs and Dems leading up to the 2012 election.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:33 AM
 
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LOL, you agree that it is wrong but you disagree that it's a problem. LOL

Imagine that.

Many of these questions that were asked were illegal to be asked. If as an employer you ask a person about things the government says you can't they come after you. They don't say, yeah that was wrong but really get over it.

No, what you are really saying is that you understand why people are so upset and in a different scenario you realize you would be upset also but you simply wish it would all go away.
What is the problem? People were fired. A report was released. I suggest you read it. It was more about the murky nature of regulating these lying political organizations pretending to be non political and asking for government handouts in the form of tax exemptions. To me that is a problem.


They should have to face those questions, these organizations are lying. They are political and they don't deserve that tax exempt status, the IRS has a legal responsibility to investigate them.

Again, any favoritism cannot be tolerated and people who have done that shouldn't be working in government.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:38 AM
 
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Much ado about nothing....as if our liberties are nothing, and it is OK if a government agency acts to suppress political beliefs.

If Obama was in on this, then it is about a totally corrupt president. If he was not, it is about a totally corrupt system--a machine that is out of control.
Liberties? What liberties? First these groups weren't denied their tax exempt status.

It is wrong for the government to favor one group over another. Those who do that shouldn't be in government.

Again, these groups are going to the government asking to be investigated by applying for tax exempt status.


The IRS by law is required to make sure these groups deserve that government handout.

The IRS didn't say hey group over there answer these questions. Those groups said hey federal government give us handouts by exempting the money our organization raises from taxes.
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