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Old 05-30-2013, 04:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by EvocatusCenturion View Post
A person born handicapped didn't choose to live that way, they were born with an abnormality and they need help because of it.

That's why we have programs and goverment funds to help those boren with abnormalities.

If one is to think homosexuals are born homosexual, then the homosexuals should go seek proffesional help.

The problem is with all that is it's not PC to figure homosexuals out and research a 'cure' for their ailment.
I don't have an ailment. I don't need a cure.
Why don't you live your life, and keep your nose out of mine?

 
Old 05-30-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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Then why do christians constantly quote Leviticus as a reference?
It's either all or nothing, and if homosexuality was such a huge deal, why didn't it even make it into the top 10?
Romans also says homosexuality is wrong, that is in the new testament...

Romans 1:26-27

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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I don't have an ailment. I don't need a cure.
Why don't you live your life, and keep your nose out of mine?
You don't see that you have a problem because you *LIKE* your problem.

It pleasures you...it doesn't burn...

But it's wrong, if you think differently then fine. I can't force you to see the other way.
You are entitled to your mind and it's contents as am I and others.

If you are not a christian then move on as this topic doesn't concern you, because when you speak up you are being rude towards the beliefs of others.

I don't go down to the gay bar and start conversations with them on their lifestyle.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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It is a choice. We are born with certain body parts.

Are you telling me God made a mental mistake?

Youre contradicting yourself.


You're also confusing sex acts with orientation. It's OK. A lot of uneducated people are often confused.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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Religion is and has always been open to gay people. Just because you have an attraction to the same sex does not mean you have to act on it. I may have an attraction to your spouse but I don't have to act on it.
Exactly...for example if my friend has a nice looking GF that I find attractive, I am not going to try and take her from him. If I see better looking woman than my GF I am not going to cheat on her.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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You don't see that you have a problem because you *LIKE* your problem.

It pleasures you...it doesn't burn...


And you don't see that your religious dogma is a problem. It pleasures you and comforts you... it doesn't burn... yet it turns the stomach of so many others.


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If you are not a christian then move on as this topic doesn't concern you, because when you speak up you are being rude towards the beliefs of others.


And who the hell died and made you Pope of the thread?


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I don't go down to the gay bar and start conversations with them on their lifestyle.

Well maybe you people SHOULD go down to the gay bar and talk to some gay people. Next time you or one of your compatriots are choosing what sexuality you'll be for the day.

They'll tell you such gems like, "Hey bud, I didn't choose to be this way."
 
Old 05-30-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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Romans also says homosexuality is wrong, that is in the new testament...

Romans 1:26-27

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
"Because of this" Want to discuss what the "this" was? I don't know any homosexuals that worship carved images of people or animals.

Also, exchanging "natural sexual relations ". Hmmmm, That would seem to me like heterosexuals having gay sex. I have no natural sexual relations with the opposite sex. That is completely un natural for me.
Add to that that there is no use of the word "homosexual" in the original language.

But nice try.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 04:55 PM
 
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You don't see that you have a problem because you *LIKE* your problem.

It pleasures you...it doesn't burn...

But it's wrong, if you think differently then fine. I can't force you to see the other way.
You are entitled to your mind and it's contents as am I and others.

If you are not a christian then move on as this topic doesn't concern you, because when you speak up you are being rude towards the beliefs of others.

I don't go down to the gay bar and start conversations with them on their lifestyle.
I TRIED to be hetero for YEARS. I was even married twice. Don't tell me what I like, or that I have a problem.

As for me moving on. Unless you own this forum, you can not make me. And you are being rude to homosexuals by telling us that we are ill, or have a problem, or need a cure. So YOU back off.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 04:56 PM
 
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It did. That is one that was kept. No same sex. God made people to procreate, not die out.
That's just one interpretation of the New Testament and is not settled by scholarly debate. It all hinges on the meaning of the Greek word "arsenokoitēs", which the anti-Gay crowd wants to believe means specifically homosexuality. However Greek etymologist tend to believe that the word refers to "unnatural acts" ( sex with children, sex with animals, rape, etc)

Another huge assumption of your argument is that Jesus nullified all the laws from the Old Testament. Jesus himself said that the law of the Old Testament shall endure without change "not one iota" until the end of time. Of course elsewhere he says that he was sent to satisfy the old convenant and establish a new one. The bible is endlessly contradictive, most due to the various sects and time frames reponsibles for its authorships. In all the biblical quotes attributed to Christ, none refer to homosexuality. What little references exist in the New Testament come from the Pauline letters, some of which we know are forgeries. And Paul was notably obsessed with celibacy himself.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 04:58 PM
 
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"Because of this" Want to discuss what the "this" was? I don't know any homosexuals that worship carved images of people or animals.

Also, exchanging "natural sexual relations ". Hmmmm, That would seem to me like heterosexuals having gay sex. I have no natural sexual relations with the opposite sex. That is completely un natural for me.
Add to that that there is no use of the word "homosexual" in the original language.

But nice try.

He posted a quote from the bible---the word of God. So you are arguing with God. It's ok but it is the word of God you take exception with, you know.
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