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With a different judge, I think the more relevant stuff would come in. The things I see as being relevant are:
1. Text about fighting where he says made a guy bleed from the nose but he still wants more.
2. Text about fighting where he says someone sat on him and he lost that round
3. Texts to him that say he needs to quit fighting so much and his response that he's not going to stop. (Texts to him may not be admissible though. Eerily, one of those texts told him he was going to end up with a bullet in the chest if he didn't stop. Sad looking back on it now.)
4. Texts between him and Rachel that day that show they were fighting all day. Go to state of mind that night.
5. Texts where he talks about hiding drugs to take them to Sanford and buying more drugs in Sanford.
I know! It's hard for the non-RWNJs to realize this Judge knows waaaay too much about the law.
With a different judge, I think the more relevant stuff would come in. The things I see as being relevant are:
1. Text about fighting where he says made a guy bleed from the nose but he still wants more.
2. Text about fighting where he says someone sat on him and he lost that round
3. Texts to him that say he needs to quit fighting so much and his response that he's not going to stop. (Texts to him may not be admissible though. Eerily, one of those texts told him he was going to end up with a bullet in the chest if he didn't stop. Sad looking back on it now.)
4. Texts between him and Rachel that day that show they were fighting all day. Go to state of mind that night.
5. Texts where he talks about hiding drugs to take them to Sanford and buying more drugs in Sanford.
I am pretty sure that Martin was not about to do any crimes that night. It does matter if Martin was a thug, when you are trying to determine if it was possible that Martin might have attacked Zimmerman first, as was described by Zimmerman. Most of us have known people at sometime in our lives that have a propensity to get into fights. I knew people like that and I learned to avoid them. Especially when they start drinking.
Zimmerman's call to dispatch was conveyed in a low, conspiratorial tone.
State of mind being established: Comrade Hunter.
Hunter.
Cops don't talk like that to each other.
Zimmerman spoke creep.
Zimmerman spoke to the dispatcher in the tone of reporting a crime in progress, but in a way and tone, as to not "spook the prey".
Undercover man's conspiratorial tone with comrades.
The dispatcher read the creep-tone accurately, and advised, stay out of it!
I took classes on European History and got an A as well, dose that make me an expert on that topic?
One does not have to be an EXPERT on a subject to know the basics. Evidence has been presented that Zimmerman wanted to be a law enforcement officer, he applied for two different positions; evidence has been presented of his court of study at Seminole State College, which proves he had definitely been exposed to the topics of SYG and self defense in those courses if he received an A grade in one of them. And as many people have pointed out over and over, self defense and SYG is taught in the Concealed Carry Weapons classes, which I believe are required in Florida in order to get such a license or permit.
He had been expelled from school 3 times. At the time of his death he was on a 10 day expulsion.
Yes, they never pursed charges on the Jewelry in his backpack. This kid was already starting a life as a petty criminal but was still in the juvenile system.
If he had not been expelled from school for the 3rd time, he would be safe at home today sleeping in his own bed and celebrating the 4th of July.
please expelled or not, no one even a kid that has been in trouble does not deserve to be shot and killed merely because he is walking home at night. besides he could of been an honor role student zimmer thought he was suspicious and followed and confronted him when he should of left that to the police.
With a different judge, I think the more relevant stuff would come in. The things I see as being relevant are:
1. Text about fighting where he says made a guy bleed from the nose but he still wants more.
2. Text about fighting where he says someone sat on him and he lost that round
3. Texts to him that say he needs to quit fighting so much and his response that he's not going to stop. (Texts to him may not be admissible though. Eerily, one of those texts told him he was going to end up with a bullet in the chest if he didn't stop. Sad looking back on it now.)
4. Texts between him and Rachel that day that show they were fighting all day. Go to state of mind that night.
5. Texts where he talks about hiding drugs to take them to Sanford and buying more drugs in Sanford.
I suppose there could be a problem with authenticating those texts were actually sent by tm, but I'm with you, they are definitely relevant.
I would add, the pictures of his physique are relevant. Not stuff like the gold teeth or giving the finger. The state has described tm as skinny several times. I think Guy even said in his opening the jury will see pictures of a dead tm and notice how skinny he was. Any pics of tm's actual physique within the time frame of his death are definitely relevant.
btw, ty for answering the question about whether the defense closing can mention the state not using the gym instrutor.
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