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Old 08-15-2013, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Glad they are checking that.

I reiterate that whatever issues we might have with it will be a tiny fraction of Japans woes.

If enough fishing grounds get contaminated badly enough it will ratchet up pressure between korean, japanese and chinese fishing disputes.
They aren't checking 100% of the imports though.
They can't because they are understaffed.
The FDA only examines 1.47% of imported food at our ports.

 
Old 08-15-2013, 11:50 AM
 
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RT: An estimated 300 tonnes of contaminated water is spilling daily into the ocean. How come Tepco insists the leaks still pose no big threat to the environment?

HW: They are lying; they can’t face the reality of this situation. When have very serious quantities of radiation going into the Pacific Ocean. There is no medical or epidemiological or scientific basis for estimating how much damage this will cost. We are on entirely new ground here and this cannot go by without a serious impact on the entire human race. This is a terrible tragedy. The problem is that the company does not want to admit how serious this is and the government of Japan doesn’t want to admit how serious this is. And even if the government of Japan steps in, they don’t know what to do. This particular administration in Japan wants to open the other nuclear plants. 50 nuclear plants have been shut in Japan since the accident and they want to reopen them.

RT: According to some estimates it will take 40 years to clean-up the contaminated area. Why so long?

HW: That is not long enough. It will never be cleaned up. We have materials there that are radioactive, that are harmful, and that are dangerous for hundreds of thousands of years. They can talk about cleaning it up in 40 years but it will never be cleaned up. You will never be able to go back on that site. The radioactivity will be in the waters forever.

RT: What long-term impact of the radiation leak on Japan and its neighboring countries we should expect in the future?

Water leaks at Fukushima could contaminate entire Pacific Ocean ? RT Op-Edge
By pretending to be concerned about radiation levels below those of solar and cosmic radiation you have already exposed yourself as a sham concerned with nothing but the political aspects of nuclear power.
 
Old 08-15-2013, 11:53 AM
 
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And scientists were reporting for 2 years that the radiation levels in the fish were not going down.
They suspected that the plant was still leaking.
Their voices were not heard.

They were right all along.
 
Old 08-15-2013, 11:55 AM
 
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By pretending to be concerned about radiation levels below those of solar and cosmic radiation you have already exposed yourself as a sham concerned with nothing but the political aspects of nuclear power.
Then why did the voices from Japan lie for 2 years about the leaking radiation ?
And there is no end in sight mind you.
 
Old 08-15-2013, 11:58 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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By pretending to be concerned about radiation levels below those of solar and cosmic radiation you have already exposed yourself as a sham concerned with nothing but the political aspects of nuclear power.
Where are those levels that low? Certainly not off the coast of Japan. "A fish contaminated with radiation levels more than 2,500 times the legal limit has been caught near Japan’s crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant "[...]
 
Old 08-15-2013, 12:24 PM
 
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While figures are hard to come by, we do know the concentration is bad enough to ban fishing along the coastline near Fukushima. A rare look at the Fukushima Daiichi no-go zone - CBS News
As I understand it the contamination is at different levels depending on water depth and other factors. Much also sinks to the bottom where its impact on the food chain may not be realized for some time to come.

While we know there is between 300-600 tons of contaminated water being dumped into the ocean per day, we do not know the level of contamination of the water. Some reports are saying the core has now breached its containment and if that is true, the level could be very high. It would be better if the information was not being covered up, as it apparently has been for the past 2 years.
Japans corporate-government relationship is as incestuous as it gets, well at least in any real democracy on the planet. Also thier culture tends to help cover things up as well.

This is a nice synopsis of nuclear waste dumped into oceans etc. Fukushima is not inconsequential, this explains the scope of the problem though.

Ocean disposal of radioactive waste - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think a lot of people don't realize just how much crap has been dumped in the oceans of the world.
 
Old 08-15-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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Then why did the voices from Japan lie for 2 years about the leaking radiation ?
And there is no end in sight mind you.
Their (poor) choice of damage control. Because when people hear 'radiation' they regress into irrational hypochondriacs, as evidenced here.
 
Old 08-15-2013, 12:56 PM
 
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Where are those levels that low? Certainly not off the coast of Japan. "A fish contaminated with radiation levels more than 2,500 times the legal limit has been caught near Japan’s crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant "[...]
Anywhere that people are being effected.
 
Old 08-16-2013, 07:33 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Anywhere that people are being effected.
Nearly 36pc of Fukushima children diagnosed with thyroid growths - Telegraph

You mean like this?
 
Old 08-16-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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» Study: Fukushima Radiation Has Already Killed 14,000 Americans Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Headline is from this: note allege, means not proven
International Journal of Health Services alleges that 14,000 people have already died in the United States due to Fukushima.
Your link to Canadian and American monitoring radiation levels you sourced from CBC is from 2011 and it said:

Canadian and U.S. authorities have both cut back radiation reporting after detecting only minuscule increases following the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear crisis, despite ongoing clean-up efforts in Japan.
"The quantities of radiation reaching Canada are very small and do not pose any health risk to Canadians," said a statement posted by Health Canada online.

"We have seen very slight increases in radiation across the country, smaller than the normal day-to-day fluctuations," said the website

This was when the containment vessel blew due to hydrogen build-up and the spent fuel rod storage cooling tanks were not having any water pumped in and the levels were dropping and they were trying to prevent the fuel rods from being exposed.
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