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My sons friend who was 13 ws ridiculing these employees for wanting $15 an hour all over facebook the other day.
I'd say if a 13 year old knows how dumb it is, then I have to ask why others who claim to be old enough to post here, dont..
btw, the other poster once again didnt say "the majority".. you just keep putting words in peoples mouths and then changing the standards on your reply.
I'd say if you're relying on the facebook page of a 13 years old to validate your very biased opinion, that might be considered beyond "dumb".........(quoting your own word there).
Maybe if you stop focusing on personally attacking me/my posts and do a little research you could contribute something of value to this conversation.
Btw, who would even think that a 13 year old would have developed some of the same biases their parents demonstrate and preach? Additionally, if the minimum wage stays the same indefinitely, who do you think will have the money to eat at fast food place, kiosks or not?
My sons friend who was 13 ws ridiculing these employees for wanting $15 an hour all over facebook the other day.
I'd say if a 13 year old knows how dumb it is, then I have to ask why others who claim to be old enough to post here, dont..
btw, the other poster once again didnt say "the majority".. you just keep putting words in peoples mouths and then changing the standards on your reply.
I say, not $15 an hour but $17.50, plus a limousine ride to and from work. And they can also use the same limos to take people to their "free" medical care--and stop for a free lunch on the way back. Oh, wait a minute, there is no such thing as a free lunch. The rest of it sounds good, though doesn't it?
What evidence do you have that the majority of "the public" is turning against these workers? What I've seen in the news indicates the opposite.
What you are interpreting from the news bites you've seen is exactly that, bites of the story engineered to make you keep watching and hyping the story (or non-story) or to buy into the union (liberal) argument.
Try walking down the street and ask 50 people what they think. If they do happen to answer instead of looking at you like you have 3 heads or rolling their eyes I'd be willing to bet they'd tell you it's crazy.
In a perfect world everyone would have a job when born that'd be a perfect fit for their abilities and would have it set in their DNA to work for what they get. They'd be born with the knowledge and skill to go forth as an adult and prosper. They would have it set genetically that if they coveted what others have to do what's needed to get it themselves, not just demand it under the guise of "fairness".
In case you didn't know, we don't live in such a world and nothing anyone does will ever make it perfect, or fair for that matter.
Now think why the unions are behind all this. Why do they all of a sudden care for these workers now? They are becoming irrelevant and losing members so they're going for the low hanging fruit.
Normally a job's pay scale reflects the amount of skill, education or technical mastery to perform said job.
Flipping burgers, deep frying french fries etc. are pretty much a low skilled job. Kids in high school with no work experience seem to manage to do these jobs with little training.
I can see raising minimum wage to reflect inflation etc. but to raise it to $15.00 an hour just because non-skilled workers want to make the big bucks? No that is absolutely wrong.
What will we mandate the average Dairy farm make then? He has to know crop management, animal management, be a mechanic, welder, have veterinary skills etc. Pretty sure very few Dairy farmers even come close to that $15.00 an hour mark.
By "going galt" I paid off all debt, moved and took early retirement.
I'm not living in a cave in the mountains somewhere.
Nor am I living off the land.
I just downsized and grabbed an opportunity when it presented itself.
I just removed myself from the system as much as I could. But you can't totally remove yourself.
"going galt".......is a reference to the Ayn Rand HERO in Atlas Shrugged! If you're not an Ayn Rand fan, perhaps it would be a good idea to find another phrase to describe your philosophy and actions.
Of course you know this, but here is just a reminder:
John Galt is a character in Ayn Rand's novel Atlas Shrugged (1957). Although he is not identified by name until the last third of the novel, he is the object of its often-repeated question "Who is John Galt?" and of the quest to discover the answer.
As the plot unfolds, Galt is acknowledged to be a philosopher and inventor; he believes in the power and glory of the human mind, and the right of the individual to use his/her mind solely for him/herself. He serves as a highly individualist counterpoint to the collectivist social and economic structure depicted in the novel, in which society is based on oppressive bureaucratic functionaries and a culture that embraces mediocrity in the name of egalitarianism, which the novel interprets as the end result of socialistic idealism
Normally a job's pay scale reflects the amount of skill, education or technical mastery to perform said job.
Flipping burgers, deep frying french fries etc. are pretty much a low skilled job. Kids in high school with no work experience seem to manage to do these jobs with little training.
I can see raising minimum wage to reflect inflation etc. but to raise it to $15.00 an hour just because non-skilled workers want to make the big bucks? No that is absolutely wrong.
What will we mandate the average Dairy farm make then? He has to know crop management, animal management, be a mechanic, welder, have veterinary skills etc. Pretty sure very few Dairy farmers even come close to that $15.00 an hour mark.
And nobody believes that the minimum wage law will increase the minimum wage to $15 per hour, although I think that would be fair and a good thing. Have you ever heard of negotiations? You ask for MORE THAN what you hope to get. Raising the minimum wage to $10 or $12 per hour would be a good start.
And nobody believes that the minimum wage law will increase the minimum wage to $15 per hour, although I think that would be fair and a good thing. Have you ever heard of negotiations? You ask for MORE THAN what you hope to get. Raising the minimum wage to $10 or $12 per hour would be a good start.
A good start for what? What exactly do you plan to accomplish other than simply raising the prices of everything? Dont you understand how it works? Are you old enough to be posting here?
What you are interpreting from the news bites you've seen is exactly that, bites of the story engineered to make you keep watching and hyping the story (or non-story) or to buy into the union (liberal) argument.
Try walking down the street and ask 50 people what they think. If they do happen to answer instead of looking at you like you have 3 heads or rolling their eyes I'd be willing to bet they'd tell you it's crazy.
In a perfect world everyone would have a job when born that'd be a perfect fit for their abilities and would have it set in their DNA to work for what they get. They'd be born with the knowledge and skill to go forth as an adult and prosper. They would have it set genetically that if they coveted what others have to do what's needed to get it themselves, not just demand it under the guise of "fairness".
In case you didn't know, we don't live in such a world and nothing anyone does will ever make it perfect, or fair for that matter.
Now think why the unions are behind all this. Why do they all of a sudden care for these workers now? They are becoming irrelevant and losing members so they're going for the low hanging fruit.
I am a proud liberal and support some socialist programs. As for the answers I might get from doing an "informal poll" of people walking down the street would depend upon what city and what neighborhood in what city I chose to "poll"......
Never said we live in a perfect and completely fair world; however, what is the justification for NOT EVEN TRYING to make it a better world for all people? Big social changes get their start from people demonstrating for changes and improvements. Have you already forgotten the social movement which resulted in the Civil Rights Act so quickly after the 50th anniversary of the MLK speech and march in Washington?
Hopefully we do not live in a world where altruism is completely DEAD.
Pricing jobs out of the market isn't making anything better for anyone.
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....(quoting your own word there).
Additionally, if the minimum wage stays the same indefinitely, who do you think will have the money to eat at fast food place, kiosks or not?
