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Old 10-02-2013, 07:32 AM
 
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I read this story and agree with the police. His response was way over the top and criminal.
He should have just wounded him! Shootings was probably over the top, but so is stealing from others.

A college girl was drunk and entered the wrong house and was shot......she shouldn't have been shot, but then again she should have known where she was. Drunk is not an excuse, same as being a thief or gang member.

It everyone's personal responsibility to keep their selves in check.
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Old 10-02-2013, 07:37 AM
 
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He should have just wounded him! Shootings was probably over the top, but so is stealing from others.

A college girl was drunk and entered the wrong house and was shot......she shouldn't have been shot, but then again she should have known where she was. Drunk is not an excuse, same as being a thief or gang member.

It everyone's personal responsibility to keep their selves in check.


Words where are the words....
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:20 AM
 
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Words where are the words....
Man Butters you shot him in the d*ck, that is so uncool. /eric cartman
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:25 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I was in a local store in a pretty bad area of town but it was right by where I work in daylight. I'm standing at the counter waiting in line and this dude boltz out the door with two 12ers. Next, the store owner comes out of nowhere and empties a revolver at him but missed. His wife said they used to call the cops but it was every day and these thugs just take what they want so they started arming themselves.The Cops write it down and leave, no patrols no nothing. I can see how it could happen. How much theft and intimidation do you put up with before you either go out of business or take the law into your own.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:26 AM
 
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Words where are the words....
How do you know he didn't tell him before to stay away.....you're assuming the media told the whole story.


When a man is stealing do you really think they should be told not to? I didn't say it was right, but a message has to be sent to gang bangers.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What other items should I be able to kill you over?

Can I wack you for stealing a pencil or paper clip?
Agreed and that's the rub. Killing someone over a beer is disgusting. Just because the law allows it doesn't mean someone should.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Volcano
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It isn't the first time this has happened. About 3 years ago a convenience store clerk in Austin saw a guy take a 12-pack of beer and run out the door. The clerk followed him out, shot him, got the beer back, the guy died.

The clerk was tried and convicted of murder.

But the Texas spin on the story was that the clerk was sentenced to probation only, since the guy he killed was committing a crime.

Still, all the tough-guy talk and armchair cowboying glosses over the fact that the legal punishment for non-violently stealing a 12-pack of beer is not execution, nor should it be the extra-legal one either. The life of a human being is worth more than that.

South Austin convenience store clerk convicted, sentenced | kvue.com Austin
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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We take our beer seriously in Texas... That is now a worse crime than stealing horses... I hope he gets off..
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Police don't even bother with trying to go after those who steal things like this from stores, so we just say things like "aw, it's only beer" or "It's not worth defending your business or a taking a life". When stealing becomes easy to get away with, then it happens more and more and business suffers. Some only see a case of beer being stolen, but the owners see their livelihood being taken away - and that is a different story. What is a human life worth? It's only worth what they choose to do with it. It's not being a tough guy or a cowboy, it's just defending yourself - whether due to the potential of physical harm - or to your means of living. Both are valid. The police & the justice system fails continually in this regard.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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You're implying that Texans routinely kill their store patrons for stealing beer?
It wouldnt be surprising. But then...

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Texas is NOT as gun-friendly as most out-of-staters seem to imagine.
From the OP's link: The owner of a South Texas convenience store has been charged with murder for allegedly shooting a 39-year-old man who tried to steal beer from his shop, according to CBS affiliate KZTV.
Rodney James Duve was being held Sunday in the Nueces County jail with bond set at $35,000.
The law is one thing. Respect for it and pro-gun culture are other matters. If all people always obeyed all laws,
there wouldnt be any need for any.
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