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Sounds like a fox news talking point, surely you can think of one other president that radically change the US.
The republicans tried to defund Obama Care 40 times and sent it to the supreme court and have doing nothing but obstruct, their plan for the last election was just to defeat Obama, they could care less about solutions. I don't think anyone has to worry about the right wing staying home, the government shutdown told us all we need to know.
So it sounds like a fox news talking point and your not sure. Confused are you?
Do you not see that legislation as sweeping as obamacare must be passed through the furnace of argument before apporval in order to temper it and make it bulletproof in order to safeguard the nation?
Do you order items as costly as your house or car on-line, wrapped in brown paper, with only a stencil categorically saying what's inside? That is what you are supporting with obamacare. That is what your elected representative did on your behalf. You find that comforting?
Do you suppose there might be a legitimate argument against obamacare based on the method of approval when legal advocates said it wasn't a tax, it wasa fine. They said that in order to gain public acceptance. If they said it was a tax, Obamacare would not have passed. The scotus said it was a tax not a fine. Do you not have an issue with this?
Maybe a valid argument based on the intent to cover, obama corrected himself from 46 million to 36 million because he said it wouldn't cover illegal aliens, and the CBO claims 30 million will be without coverage.
All estimates of the cost of obamacare must have been for medicated bubble gum because the cost has left this galaxy. Cost was also a selling point.
Do you see a pattern of lies, are you in the least suspicious of a law that passed without being read or understood and could not be explained by those who approved it ? and wonder of wonders does it make you uncomfortable that Dem legislators who passed obamacare were surprised enough to propose legislation to keep their doctor and insurance when they were recently SURPRISED to find that Obama's promise of keeping your doctor was negated by legislation they approved?
If a state insurance agency discovered an insurance agent sold you expensive coverage you don't need, without the slightest probabilty of you ever using it, the agent and comapny would be charged with a crime. Yet this is the basis of obamacare and in fact mandates you pay for coverage you don't need. This crime differentiates substandard coverage from mandated coverage. They have to pretend to sell you something to justify the cost because if they said you were in pool and the extra cost to you was to pay for someone else, the Obamacre legislation would now be confetti stored for the Washington redskins super bowl victory parade.
Do you fail to see the need to overturn legislation that had to be installed in the dark of the night by democratic dupes, some of which had to be bribed for their vote?
Do you not see that legislation that is so good for you can't be sold on its merits and must be enforced by the IRS whose integrity is now the subject of a potential crime?
These crooks are either so arrogant or they feel untouchable........
Just look at his video!!! SMH
This country is chose this path.......we are dissolving right before our very eyes.....
Our friends on the left tend to just ignore things like this. Hypocrisy and hubris becomes them. They're just following the lead of their failed President.
I know praying isn't in your wheelhouse but you better do some kind of pagan dance that Obamacare actually starts to work because if the Senate changes hands in 2014...
I'm a conservative, but I think the filibuster should have been done away with decades ago (if it should have ever existed in the first place.) Like it or not, we have a majority rules government. The filibuster only creates gridlock. The shouldn't need a supermajority to pass something.
And also, what goes around comes around. At some point the Republicans will get control of the Senate. If the Dems get rid of the filibuster, at that point they're going to have live with whatever the Republicans want.
When 50.1% can tell 49.9% what to do, when to do it, and how to do it, you are setting yourself up for a revolution.
2/3 is the only thing keeping this nation from civil war.
no more checks and balances..........we have a king now.......not a President. Like it or not the filibuster is as American as our founders intended.
But that's over now.
Seems to me you don't understand how our government is structured, nor about the role of the different branches. The America-haters lost yesterday ... and that's reason enough to celebrate, even just a little.
Well the amusing side story to this is that even with his "nuclear option", Obama may still have a hard time passing anything since members of his own party are starting to defect. Obama is becoming toxic to his own party, and those up for re-election in 2014 are running for cover and jumping ship.
Both parties have been undemocratic in using them.
Now if one likes them, they should also want a 261 minimum vote requirement in the House (60%) to do anything. That should include appointing a House speaker, committe memberships, anything at all. At least they would not than simply be playing politics with the issue.
Nope. The House and the Senate do not have the same role or purpose.
What a bunch of garbage.
IF what you claim is so true, why didn't the repubs do it when they held both Houses of Congress under W. Bush?
Again, you prove how ignorant you are.
*sigh*
Because, as I and numerous others here have tried to explain to you frantic righties, the GOP abused the filibuster in historic, epic proportions starting in 2009. Back then, there was one senator who was trying to en the filibuster, and all the other Dems told him to forget it.
Four years later, after the GOTP repeatedly broke "gentlemen's" promises and ran roughshod over decades of unwritten rules by abusing the filibuster, the Dems finally gave up.
You shrieking children can cry all you like, but those are the facts. Even a cursory Google search will enlighten you. Of course, you get your "news" from Breitbart and Rush who are lying to you … so you just keep on repeating the same nonsense as above.
Boy, do you guys look uneducated on this thread.
Edited to add: This is also why then-Sen. Obama opposed going nuclear in 2005. The GOP hadn't yet gone insane. and actually destroyed the good will that Dems believed in back then. Your bleats of "hypocrisy" convince no one outside your rightwing bubble.
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