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Old 11-21-2013, 04:57 PM
 
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This was a pretty dumb move on the Democrats part because the Dam has now been broken and will never be put back in place by either side of the aisle. It goes to the old saying "give them an inch and they will take a mile". This move may only apply to judicial appointees as of now but you can pretty much make a safe bet that in the future both sides will use and expand this for USSC appointees and any controversial pending legislation. What is to stop either party from using the 51 vote majority rule to pass anything in the Senate? There is no turning back now....the minority party in the Senate has just been castrated. Sit down and shut up will be the new modus operandi of the Senate.
Like my father used to tell me: "be careful what you wish for...you just might get it"
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:00 PM
 
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The President is a radical. But more importantly, his nominations are radical. When a nominee for the Executive Branch or the Judiciary is a radical, the President seeks to put in place those who can adequately and adeptly put in his radical agenda. This is done through the rulemaking process and through legislating from the bench. This is why liberals have been up in arms about the filibuster of nominees, because they know that the only way the President gets his radical agenda through is via the nominees.

I'm amazed that they are willing to sacrifice a long-term strategy for a short-term gain. The President has a measely 3 years left in his term, which is barely enough time to get rules and regulations in place to affect a radical agenda. The filibuster damage was done in the first 5 years of his Presidency because crucial time was lost to get the President's radical agenda in place.

I think Democrats' gains here are minimal. All they can do at this point is hope and pray that the GOP doesn't end up with a Senate majority, or better yet, in the Oval Office AND a Senate majority.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:05 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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My husband suggested that we only need two people in D.C., the president and the speaker of the house. They make the decisions and everybody else goes along with them. Heaven help the poor representative that actually listens to those back home who voted for them.

So send everybody else home and we can save millions of dollars.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:06 PM
 
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Default Breaking! Senate Democrats vote "Nuclear Option on filibusters!

Our Constitutional Republic just took a giant step toward a Mob Rule Democracy.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:10 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Our Constitutional Republic just took a giant step toward a Mob Rule Democracy.

Our Constitutional Republic just took a giant step toward a MAJORITY , as elected by the people, Rule Democracy
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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Our Constitutional Republic just took a giant step toward a MAJORITY , as elected by the people, Rule Democracy
A Senate majority = ruling?

Care to try again?
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:16 PM
 
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Our Constitutional Republic just took a giant step toward a Mob Rule Democracy.
Filibustering was never a part or intent of the Constitution.
The Senate make-up itself is one* of the constitutional means the founding fathers' used to avoid "mob rule", since it's not based upon population. (*The other means is the judicial power to overturn legislation that contraindicated Constitutional provisions)
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:18 PM
 
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My husband suggested that we only need two people in D.C., the president and the speaker of the house. They make the decisions and everybody else goes along with them.
Your husband wants to entirely nullify the Senate?
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Our Constitutional Republic just took a giant step toward a Mob Rule Democracy.
The only thing resembling mob rule in the congress is that unruly mob in the House.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:23 PM
 
Location: NJ
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A Senate majority = ruling?

Care to try again?
51 vote thumbs up or down is the Democratic way. Each state gets their 2 votes, again very democratic.

Just as 218 House votes rules the day, again a simple majority.
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