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Not quite as simplistic as making imaginary assumptions about a chart.
In case you hadn't noticed Obama has been the most radical president of all time. He is trying to change the face of America, stumbling along the way and his wife wants to re-write our history.
I would certainly hope in light of the all or nothing at all Obama ideologythe repubs would at least try to do something and that is refelcted in the chart.
Someone had best tell obama that when an election is won, it does not mean the political opposition should stay home and the 'winner' do what he pleases. There is, after all, half the thcountry who did not vote for him. More, if the IRS was not used criminally to supress the vote.
Sounds like a fox news talking point, surely you can think of one other president that radically change the US.
The republicans tried to defund Obama Care 40 times and sent it to the supreme court and have doing nothing but obstruct, their plan for the last election was just to defeat Obama, they could care less about solutions. I don't think anyone has to worry about the right wing staying home, the government shutdown told us all we need to know.
Sounds like a fox news talking point, surely you can think of one other president that radically change the US.
The republicans tried to defund Obama Care 40 times and sent it to the supreme court and have doing nothing but obstruct, their plan for the last election was just to defeat Obama, they could care less about solutions. I don't think anyone has to worry about the right wing staying home, the government shutdown told us all we need to know.
Now that Obamacare has been rolled out it's pretty obvious those 40 attempts were the right thing to do but unfortunately fell short.
I don't understand what the problem is here. If Republicans want to change the rules or change the law, they should win more elections so they will have more votes in Congress to enact the changes they desire. If we have a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate and a Republican House, logic would dictate that legislation and appointees would probably be closer to what the Democrats want than what the Republicans want.
Also, this "nuclear option" only applies to executive nominees and judicial nominations, not Supreme Court vacancies and proposed legislation. I think Republicans cannot say in good faith that they have respected the office of the (Barack Obama) presidency enough to allow him to fulfil his constitutional duties by nominating judges. Instead, they seem more interested in blocking him at every term and then criticizing him for his lack of effectiveness.
All you've done is state the obvious while faithfully ignoring the fact that Democrats will have to suffer through the Republican nominating process with literally not one single weapon in the arsenal due to the short-sightedness they employed in November 2013.
Many of you may not be old enough to remember this, but the Senate Democrats stalled, blocked or filibustered about 20 Bush judicial appointments. You can read all about it in Wikipedia. And how many Obama judicial appointments did the Republicans block? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_judicial_appointment_controversies
And for bonus points, who said the following?
"What (Americans) don’t expect is for one Party, be it Republican or Democrat, to change the rules in the middle of the game, so that they can make all the decision while the other Party is told to sit down and keep quiet."
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Great!! Half of all filibusters in history used to block an appointment have been done to block an Obama appointment. Maybe the cry baby obstructionists will understand the country is moving forward with or without them. So all you people talking about how this will backfire are probably wrong, as the Dems have not wasted a lot of time blocking all of a president's nominees.
I'm a conservative, but I think the filibuster should have been done away with decades ago (if it should have ever existed in the first place.) Like it or not, we have a majority rules government. The filibuster only creates gridlock. The shouldn't need a supermajority to pass something.
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Amen, IMO a supermajority requirement is an undemocratic manuver.
Republicans are mad now, but whenever they get the majority they will be happy the Democrats did this -- Really the Democrats have done something that should've been done ages ago, and I don't see it being undone.
I have always been against the filibuster. If people don't like what's going on, they can vote the party out of power in the next election. We don't need to give the minority party so much power. Parliamentary democracies don't give the minority ANY power.
The filibuster was derived from a parliamentary procedure.
Great!! Half of all filibusters in history used to block an appointment have been done to block an Obama appointment. Maybe the cry baby obstructionists will understand the country is moving forward with or without them. So all you people talking about how this will backfire are probably wrong, as the Dems have not wasted a lot of time blocking all of a president's nominees.
Considering that Obama has shown he's completely inept and incompetent with regard to appointments blocking them is and was a good thing.
The Senate, of all places, should be sensitive to the fact that this large and diverse country has never believed in government by an unrestrained majority rule.
The Senate's composition is a repudiation of the very idea that the largest number of votes always wins. The Senators from places like Rhode Island, Wyoming or Iowa know that their constituents are given an equal say with Senators from New York because each state has two votes, regardless of population.
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