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Old 12-30-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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If the liberals were serious about healthcare reform, they would have included tort reform in the Affordable Care Act.

They are serious about redistributing wealth and/or making more people dependent on government assistance. They couldn't care less if you get quality or any healthcare.
Tort Reform???? You must be crazy. Texas already did that and every study showed that it didn't lower medical costs one bit.

Tort reform is right wing code for taking away a patients right of redress for over the 80,000 certified malpractice incidents that happen every year.

Tort reform is the unregulated health industry's wet dream. Do what you want without the threat of liability. Might work if you're selling pot holders, but not when you're dealing with peoples lives and quality of life, post procedure.
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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Then why am I still not on Section 8, welfare, food stamps? Why did I go to college to better myself and now pay higher taxes?
I dont know, why arent you?
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I am a prime example of why socialism can work!

Thats not socialism.. your supporting a fiscal system that you dont even comprehend..
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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uhm the medicare reimbursement rates are way under where the cost of living is

sorry but medicare sucks..and the payments the doctors get are not enough
Speaking for primary care.

Before we got about $70 for a typical office visit, 100 for extended.

Most Medicare patients are seen 2-4X annually.

So a typical cumulative annual Medicare patient reimbursement goes from about $325 to $490 the first year, $425 the following years. These are nice jumps if you take care of hundreds of Medicare patients.
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I am a prime example of why socialism can work!

nope...you are a prime example that capitalism, personal responsibility and SELF IMPROVEMENT can work

socialism creates mediocrity
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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uhm the medicare reimbursement rates are way under where the cost of living is

sorry but medicare sucks..and the payments the doctors get are not enough
Could you please provide me with a link to that paragraph. I'm really interested in the sourse of that statement and conclusion.

That 58.00 payment does not include the 20% that the patient also pays for the service. so the total doctors receive is more that 58.00.

As God is my witness. Two weeks ago, I asked my PCP if he would take the Humana Advantage for my part B. I wanted it because they paid the 165.00 deductible for part B and the silver sneakers for gym membership.

His exact words were, "No, they pay less than medicare and when they do pay, it's really slow. I'd have to hire another administrator just to sort thorough the maze if I took that type of insurance. I prefer Medicare."
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Could you please provide me with a link to that paragraph. I'm really interested in the sourse of that statement and conclusion.

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More Doctors Steer Clear of Medicare - WSJ.com
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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Tort Reform???? You must be crazy. Texas already did that and every study showed that it didn't lower medical costs one bit.

Tort reform is right wing code for taking away a patients right of redress for over the 80,000 certified malpractice incidents that happen every year.

Tort reform is the unregulated health industry's wet dream. Do what you want without the threat of liability. Might work if you're selling pot holders, but not when you're dealing with peoples lives and quality of life, post procedure.
Tort reform is a disaster for patient rights.
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:08 AM
 
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I am a prime example of why socialism can work!

If you got up and got a job instead of laying around on welfare and are now productive and contributing, that's actually an example of the work ethic working.

More and more people living on welfare handouts is an example of socialism and how it's failing.

Jobs are the best social programs there are.
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Thank you for that. I could read the first two lines but I'm not a subscriber, so I'll just have to take your word for it.
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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Thank you for that. I could read the first two lines but I'm not a subscriber, so I'll just have to take your word for it.
I think the same article as in WSJ:
More Doctors Steer Clear of Medicare

Are Doctors Really Ditching Medicare? | The Fiscal Times
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