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Old 12-29-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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Originally Posted by Magritte25 View Post
Nope. And I don't care. Government isn't supposed to be run like a business. Its goal is not to turn profits. Its goal is to work for the people.
Too bad when government gets this large, the only people is DOESN'T serve is "the people."
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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The states reimburse Medicaid less than Medicare as they have Historically set the rates in each state. Period.....Fact.......

It is only since the expansion and those participants has the reimbursement rate been tied to the Medicare reimbursement rate.

My example is a comparison between BCBS and Medicare. I do not nor have I ever received Medicaid.

why do you continue to distort and obfuscate the facts. I have spent almost 20 pages constantly refuting you claims with undeniable facts and credible links, yet you keep bobbing and weaving like those facts don't exist.

One More Time.

STATES SET THE REIMBURSEMENT RATES FOR MEDICAID AND ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM.
STATES HAVE HISTORICALLY PAID LESS THAN MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT RATES TO DOCTORS WHO TREAT MEDICAID.
THE ACA MANDATES THAT ANY STATE THAT ACCEPTS THE EXPANSION MUST BRING MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT RATES UP TO MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT RATES.

EVERY STATE THAT HAS REFUSED TO EXPAND THEIR MEDICAID UNDER THE ACA IS A REPUBLICAN DOMINATED STATE AT THE LEGISLATIVE AND GOVERNOR LEVEL. IT IS ONLY THOSE STATES THAT ARE UNDERPAYING THEIR DOCTORS WHO TREAT THE POOR.

There is no tap dancing around the truth. there is no way to avoid the facts. I have provided ample, unbiased facts on the issue. You will just have to accept this inconvenient truth.
Wrong.. States set the percentile of the reinbursement rate, not the reinbursement rates themself.

http://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Coding/I...guide_2009.pdf

And once again, the fact that they are bringing medicaid percentile rates up to the medicare percentile rates doesnt mean the insurance is covering the expenses. The medicare reinbursement rates have been argued about for ages as not sufficient.

What Are Medicare Reimbursement Rates?
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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Actually that tax you'd be paying even if you dont receive medicaid.
No kidding! Didn't realize that in the 15 years I have worked jobs! WOW!!!
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I would think you'd pay a Medicare tax just like I do. Medicaid recipients do not have to pay into it. Some Medicaid recipients on CHIPS might pay a mere $25 a month for essentially unlimited health care.
We both do,its not a lot. I am pretty sure the SS is the most they take out of each check.
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Wait until he starts paying for all that free medical that he wants everyone to have.

He'll need several part time 28 hour Obama jobs just to pay taxes.
Fine with me seeing how the government would be paying for ALL medical problems,medicines,therapies etc. Save me some money.
Either government needs to take over and we have 1 payer system OR companies need to pay workers more and they get their own insurance. Whichever is fine with me. Funny thing is republicans are against BOTH of these options.
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So you do have insurance available to purchase through your wife's work but CHOOSE to take your FREE medicaid? Nice.
Why wouldn't we? Paying for it so mine as well use it we qualify for it so.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:33 AM
 
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No kidding! Didn't realize that in the 15 years I have worked jobs! WOW!!!

We both do,its not a lot. I am pretty sure the SS is the most they take out of each check.
Fine with me seeing how the government would be paying for ALL medical problems,medicines,therapies etc. Save me some money.
Either government needs to take over and we have 1 payer system OR companies need to pay workers more and they get their own insurance. Whichever is fine with me. Funny thing is republicans are against BOTH of these options.

Why wouldn't we? Paying for it so mine as well use it we qualify for it so.
Tell me why you are willing to pay more in taxes to have health insurance, when you arent willing to buy the health insurance thats available to you now..

And why are you expecting doctors to take this medicaid insurance, if you arent willing to obtain the better insurance yourself?

Profits over people is a statement you made on this thread, isnt that EXACTLY what you're doing?
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:36 AM
 
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Tell me why you are willing to pay more in taxes to have health insurance, when you arent willing to buy the health insurance thats available to you now..

And why are you expecting doctors to take this medicaid insurance, if you arent willing to obtain the better insurance yourself?

Profits over people is a statement you made on this thread, isnt that EXACTLY what you're doing?
Money from my check is taken out of my check to pay for medicare which I have so I am paying for my insurance.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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Money from my check is taken out of my check to pay for medicare which I have so I am paying for my insurance.
You didnt answer one question posed, you only went on to justify the hypocracy in your own postings..
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:39 AM
 
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Money from my check is taken out of my check to pay for medicare which I have so I am paying for my insurance.
Medicaid recipients don't pay for Medicaid. Are you sure you're not talking about Medicare? Working people pay for Medicare which they will get after they reach retirement age.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:39 AM
 
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Money from my check is taken out of my check to pay for medicare which I have so I am paying for my insurance.
And I'm also paying for your health insurance, as is everyone else. You are not paying for your own health insurance.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Northeast
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We should be asking why does it cost so much to have a baby? Once government nationalizes things that they can manage better than private industry that pumps prices up then things will be cheaper.


Yes. I help my community a lot actually. I give to charities,volunteer etc. You obviously haven't read most of my replies as I already said things that are necessities should be dealt with first but its people before profits. Part of the problem is having private companies pumping the price of stuff up to put profits before people as usual. Once government either cracks down severely on those companies or takes over them in full things will become lower in price. You also need to break the monopoly of international money lenders grip on your economy. Print your own money OR give out certificates that the people will use to buy things made in the country etc. That way the money is staying within the country and it fixes things. I am no fan of Hitler by any means but take a look at how things were done there...I read somewhere they did this very thing. Broke the monopoly of international banks running the money things and did it themselves and it worked pretty well. I am more Socialist than that and think any private companies need to be TIGHTLY controlled to control them from jacking prices up to high to make a buck. Capitalism is evil and pushes people towards caring more for money than for their fellow man.
If yeah hate this country so much then why don't you move too the more enlightened "Socialist" or better
yet Communist countries (NK) I hear they offer free healthcare there, Top Notch!
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:45 AM
 
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You didnt answer one question posed, you only went on to justify the hypocracy in your own postings..
I answered it. Don't like it oh well. Battling with such a person is getting old and boring..
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Medicaid recipients don't pay for Medicaid. Are you sure you're not talking about Medicare? Working people pay for Medicare which they will get after they reach retirement age.
I will have to find my pay stub...either way paying for someone's health insurance LOL
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And I'm also paying for your health insurance, as is everyone else. You are not paying for your own health insurance.
Oh well. Both me and wife work therefore our taxes are going towards anything we use anyways...its not what's good for the individual but what's best for the whole community.
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