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It should stimulate the economy like unemployment too. LOL
Liberals believe anything they are told by their dear leaders it appears.
Well to be fair, stealing money from people and giving it to people who will spend it right away probably does stimulate the economy in the short term. Doesn't make it right.
Again, you keep making these huge assumptions that you have no proof to back up.
Again just taking household income doesn't tell us about that uninsured individual and why they are uninsured.
They may not be making $75,000. It could be a household with an adult child still living with their parents whose total household income adds up to $75,000.
It could be households with two siblings living together. Again, think of all of the household arrangements and that household income may not tell you what you think it tells you about individual uninsured people in that household.
You are wrong about the 19million young adults who lack insurance as well. Some of those people have chronic illnesses.
Some of those people work part-time, some of those people are in college but their parents don't have insurance themselves.
Some of those people work full time but their employers don't offer insurance or their employer provided insurance is too expensive and some of them couldn't afford the insurance on the individual market before the ACA.
So your speculation that 30 million out of 50 million could afford insurance is not based on any known studies about the uninsured.
These things are not a mystery. People ask the uninsured why they lack insurance.
Virtually everyone in our sample wanted insurance coverage: less than 3 percent of uninsured nonelderly adults and uninsured children had never had insurance or had no need for insurance (figure 1)
The high cost of insurance was reported for more than half of all uninsured nonelderly adults and uninsured children as a reason for their uninsurance. Job-related reasons were the second most common explanation for uninsurance for both uninsured adults (41 percent) and children (31 percent). To the extent that job-related issues are an indirect reporting of cost (in that the individual does not have access to ESI coverage and so can only purchase coverage in the nongroup market), health insurance costs were a factor for the majority of the uninsured adults (79 percent) and uninsured children (74 percent).
Stop this mindless and worthless speculation.
It still doesn't change that 10-12million Americans previously uninsured now have insurance this year because of the ACA.
And the administration also makes HUGE Assumptions that people getting insurance is due to the ACA. Right? The road road both ways.
Even you highlighted that they their "assumptions"
"We feel pretty comfortable attributing much of this change to the Affordable Care Act," Witters told NBC News.
So they feel pretty comfortable attributing it. There are no facts attributing it to the ACA. They are making the same assumptions as I am. So are they making mindless speculations as well?
I am a medical professional. While there are some sick young people. The real facts are that the vast majority of kids and young adults are healthy. What families usa (which gets obama money) like to note is 15% of people have pre existing conditions. While that's true. It doesn't mean much unless you much until you look at a diagnosis.
Most kids and young adults "pre existing conditions" are minor like asthma. Even if they are included in the 15% insurers won't deny them insurance. They have a 6-12 month exclusion period for the asthma pre existing conditions. If young adult with asthma gets in car wreck, needs surgery, insurance pre ACA would still cover them. That's why Obama and the Dems don't talk about exclusion periods insurers have. It's not that hard to explain.
Yes some have cancer and other chronic diseases like juvenile diabetes. But the vast majority of kids and young adults are healthy and dirt cheap to cover.
Why do you think insurers agreed to eliminate pediatric pre existing condition clauses in 2010 as well as let young adults on parents plans?
Why? Take a lucky guess. If they were that generous, why didn't they lets other adults with pre existing conditions onto the insurance plans as well in 2010?
Common sense. If you can't conclude what I am already concluded, than you simply do not understand the percentages. The facts are that the vast majority are healthy.
Your quote about the high cost of insurance doesn't break down age range. Young adults aren't saving money under the ACA. That is a fact I think we can agree on. 2013, most young adult could get high quality HSA compatible tax advantaged plans for $100-150/month with around a $2500 max in network deductible. Under the ACA, they can still pay that same amount $100-150/month but face $6000 max in network deductibles. And subsidies won't help many of them. Because the ACA subsidies are based on 9.5% AGI. So if the "silver" plan with the max $4000 in network deductible comes in at around $175/month. They would need to make less than around $17000 to even qualify for subsidies. And that's way less than 400% of poverty.
Well to be fair, stealing money from people and giving it to people who will spend it right away probably does stimulate the economy in the short term. Doesn't make it right.
But it doesnt, because even if the person its taken from holds onto it, it sits in the bank and the bank has to loan it out to earn a profit.
Either way its cycled back into the economy, the difference of course is that one way its invested for long term stability, the other it gets blown and causes more crime and more poverty.
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How about we just see a list of all of those who successfully got onto that silly ObamaCare website and actually were able to pay deposits?
I'm not believing anything the leftist extremists say unless I see valid evidence that people actually enrolled and have paid up. No matter, though. Dems are liars, and Obama(S-)Care is a scam.
UnitedHealth Group, which is participating in just five public exchanges this year, said it’s likely to join more insurance marketplaces in 2015 but didn't offer specifics.
Executive vice president Gail Boudreaux, on an earnings call with investors Thursday morning, said the company “has a bias to increase” the company’s participation in Affordable Care Act exchanges in 2015 after seeing encouraging trends in the program's first year.
“The size of the overall market is positive,” Boudreaux said. She said consumers’ large interest in “silver” health plans – mid-level insurance plans in which insurers cover 70 percent of the care costs – is another positive sign for the young exchanges. Almost two-thirds of customers selecting health plans through the exchanges have chosen silver plans.
Why shouldn't they increase participation on the exchanges ? Despite losing money this year, they know another 7 million or more will lose insurance next year, a big base for newly uninsured to join the ranks of newly insured on exchanges. If they lose more money, so what, the risk corridor bailout is there.
Then we have the 'one hand washes the other' business approach ---
'UnitedHealth's health-care technology division, Optum, has emerged as a major player in the marketplaces. It helped repair HealthCare.gov, as well as a few broken state-run exchange Web sites. The company said the unit saw revenue rise 29 percent from this quarter a year ago, and it expects to take on more business as a result of its work to rescue HealthCare.gov.'
The nubmers are only dropping AFTER they raised the uninsured numbers..
Smh, who is "they"?
Again, the chart doesn't show what you think it shows. That chart shows an increase in the uninsured starting at the end of 2012. The so called cancellation controversy didn't start until well into September, October 2013.
In order for the chart to show what you think it shows, there would have to be relatively stable rates of the uninsured and then a huge spike at the end of 2013, that is not what is being shown by that chart.
Here is what Dick Armey said about the right wing cabal of Tea Party radio shows...
“People like Beck and Hannity and Rush are nothing without the people who faithfully hang on their every word — I consider that a constituency trust that should be respected,” said former House Majority Leader Dick Armey. He was ousted from FreedomWorks in a bitter feud, but had been chairman when the group signed its contracts with Beck and Limbaugh. “For them to basically sell their influence and say whatever the contract asks of them, it compromises the integrity of the pundit-guru, as it were, and it’s an undignified expenditure on the part of the outfit that’s mining the attention.”
In other words if you follow the money the Tea Party and these shows are nothing but shills for the Koch brothers. You gotta wonder about all the Tea Partiers out their in the right wing echo chamber. Can you actually formulate a thought outside of the garbage you listen to?
Again, the chart doesn't show what you think it shows. That chart shows an increase in the uninsured starting at the end of 2012. The so called cancellation controversy didn't start until well into September, October 2013.
In order for the chart to show what you think it shows, there would have to be relatively stable rates of the uninsured and then a huge spike at the end of 2013, that is not what is being shown by that chart.
So some people entered into a private contract. Millions do it everyday. Big deal.
If you don't like Limbaugh, Hannity and the rest don't listen to them.
They are doing nothing wrong here. They aint hurting anyone.
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