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Old 03-31-2014, 09:37 PM
 
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Oh, so you know every single one of those peoples political affiliation?

The fact is, you didn't even look at any of them. I know that for a fact because I did, and it took much longer to look through them all than it did you to respond to my post with an attack.

You've been debunked repeatedly tonight, and it would be in your best interest to actually listen to people, who I'm going to bet some of them are indeed Dems, and I'm going to bet, some of them voted for that clown in the WH, and hear what they have to say.

You want to sit there and say that NO ONE is paying more, I've given you links to view, and read, to hear it straight from the peoples mouths, not a news anchor, THE ACTUAL PEOPLE who were hit with their new healthcare amounts.

All you are doing is showing everyone how dishonest you are.
I am not talking about any "people". I am talking about conservative people, and conservatives do not care about reality when it comes to this issue.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:37 PM
 
Location: OKC
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what the admin does not grasp, young america wants it free and first class. has always gotten it on those terms and does not want to change now.
We've never asked young American's to subsidize the healthcare of the elderly like we are doing now.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:39 PM
 
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I am not talking about any "people". I am talking about conservative people, and conservatives do not care about reality when it comes to this issue.
I very much care about the reality claim that I can give employees pay raises using savings from benefits which actually costs more..

Thats why I keep asking you how I do it.. Dont you want to help my employees get raises by telling me this secret?
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:40 PM
 
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Once again, how does an employer give people pay raises with the $2500 in savings, that according to you, (and your bs sources), actually involved prices that were HIGHER than when they started.

I want FACTS.. As a business owner, I'd love to know how to afford to give my employees pay raises while paying more for expenses...

Please provide me with your inciteful knowledge I can put to use..

If you cant with FACTS, then I'll call it what it is, just a pathetic attempt to justify Obamas LIES..
I have explained how twice now.

Every year employers are spending more money on employee health insurance. This means that instead of paying employers by income increasing the cost of employees comes from the cost of health insurance. If the rate of increase of health insurance slows down, then employers will spend less of the increase of employees on health insurance will have money to put towards employee's incomes.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:43 PM
 
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I have explained how twice now.

Every year employers are spending more money on employee health insurance. This means that instead of paying employers by income increasing the cost of employees comes from the cost of health insurance. If the rate of increase of health insurance slows down, then employers instead of spending more money on health insurance will have money to put towards employee's incomes.
If the rate of increase slows down, I'm NOT SAVING ANYTHING, THE COST IS GOING UP

I dont have more money to give the employees a pay raise, despite Obamas LIES...

Thats like suggesting that we're all saving money on gasoline because it could be $9.99 a gallon right now..
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:44 PM
 
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I very much care about the reality claim that I can give employees pay raises using savings from benefits which actually costs more..

Thats why I keep asking you how I do it.. Dont you want to help my employees get raises by telling me this secret?
I have explained three times how this is done.

Employers are spending more money every year for health insurance. Increasingly the costs of employees are coming from health insurance. If the rate of growth in the cost of health insurance slows than some of the money that employers would have spent on health insurance can go to employee salaries.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:47 PM
 
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If the rate of increase slows down, I'm NOT SAVING ANYTHING, THE COST IS GOING UP

Thats like suggesting that we're all saving money on gasoline because it could be $9.99 a gallon right now..
Yes the employer is saving money. If an employer is going to continue providing health insurance to their employees and the rate of growth in the cost of health insurance is 1%, then the employer knows that every year on average 1% more evey year on health insurance.

If that rate is cut to .5% every year then clearly that employer who was going to maintain health insurance for employees is saving money and some of that savings can be paid to employees as income.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:48 PM
 
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I have explained three times how this is done.

Employers are spending more money every year for health insurance. Increasingly the costs of employees are coming from health insurance. If the rate of growth in the cost of health insurance slows than some of the money that employers would have spent on health insurance can go to employee salaries.
no you havent.. all you've done is made up some bull crap figures that healthcare was going to rise 50%, and so when it only rose 25%, Obama saved us money..

You want to slow down the rate of increase, crash the economy again.. yeah, thats a great plan there

I'm done.. the humor of talking to you has now turned into ridiculousness of stupidity.. I actually feel dumber
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I have explained three times how this is done.

Employers are spending more money every year for health insurance. Increasingly the costs of employees are coming from health insurance. If the rate of growth in the cost of health insurance slows than some of the money that employers would have spent on health insurance can go to employee salaries.
Can I hazard a guess that you do not now or have ever owned a business?
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:54 PM
 
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