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Old 04-01-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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Around and around and around they go, but nary an answer in sight from the GOP when you ask them what they would replace the ACA with. And why is that? Simple, because everything they would have ever instituted is already in the ACA. So we get these dazed and confused Republicans wandering around muttering that they need to repeal the law, but they have no clue what would come next. You would think after five years one of them would think of something.

Watch: Frustrated Fox host asks Lindsey Graham 4 times for GOP Obamacare alternative | The Raw Story

Why anyone still takes the GOP seriously is a mystery.
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:14 AM
 
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Default Why are we doing this??????

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Reasons #13 & 14 for not signing up.
  1. Your individual insurance plan was cancelled and you believe other Marketplace plans are unaffordable.
  2. You experienced another hardship in obtaining health insurance.
https://www.healthcare.gov/exemptions/


Yes it's a hardship and very unaffordable.
Isn't this the excuse for anyone not signing up ?

There is no March 31st deadline.
It is truly amazing with so many set back and failures from estimating , to coops to no visible discount for any .

To ad insult to injury the ACA is a money / profit driven law. When is a law based on what the Fed can get from Americans. Out Rage!
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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You are wasting your time and talent working for someone else. You should start your own business...
Why because you don't understand basic logic. Smh
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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You could do that, but you'd be wrong. Businesses and governments don't take future cost reductions and apply that to increasing employee salaries "all the time", which is what you said. That's ridiculous and it's no wonder someone called you out on it.

When was the last time you saw a company send out a mass email to its employees saying that the HR department realized a savings on insurance costs so they were giving all employees a raise? That's absurd.
I didn't write that at all. Making stuff up is never the right thing to do.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:33 AM
 
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With so many waiting yet to complete signup, could the number get nearer to 8 million?
Whitehouse website still says 14 million will benefit, while the CBO says 30 million will be uninsured..
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:34 AM
 
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Not true. I could give links proving the 'total' enrollment on exchanges does Not include expanded Medicaid, but you'll stick with the 14 million or change the subject to how awful Ocare is. There are plenty of reasons to oppose Ocare without stubbornly sticking to a false number.
If 14 million was true, then 1/2 of all of the uninsured would be obtaining insurance.

That would mean the CBO is lying when they say 30 million will go without insurance.

So tell me jazz, who's lying?
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:35 AM
 
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I didn't write that at all. Making stuff up is never the right thing to do.
You only quote things that are made up and then argue that their being truthful...

yeah, thats so much better.. hahaha
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:36 AM
 
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Whitehouse website still says 14 million will benefit, while the CBO says 30 million will be uninsured..
As mentioned earlier, according to the website, the 14 million includes CHIP & Medicaid expansion. The 27 million (not 30 million) is a 2022 CBO projection of net new insured.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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As mentioned earlier, according to the website, the 14 million includes CHIP & Medicaid expansion.
since lefties seem to be pretty slow today, lets hold their hand and baby step them through the numbers.

Obama sold the public on the fact that 30,000,000 were uninsured.. (yes, this was down from the original number of 45,000,000, but that also included illegals)

So if 14,000,000 people obtained insurance, I dont give a rats ass if its through CHIP, Medicaid, or ACA (even though medicaid expansion applications actually go through ACA whcih means you're trying to count them twice),

this would leave 16,000,000 people uninsured.

But the CBO says 30,000,000 people will be left without insurance

So who is lying?
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:41 AM
 
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The 27 million (not 30 million) is a 2022 CBO projection of net new insured.
No its not..

CBO: Obamacare Will Leave 30 Million Uninsured | CNS News
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