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There isnt 55 million people not enrolled now, you're pulling figures out of your ass.
The CBO said the figure was 40 million, of which 10 million of them are illegals and not counted.
Most 4th graders can subtract 10 million from from 40 million and be left with 30 million, the EXACT same number that will be uninsured.
You can pull whatever figures out of your ass you want to imagine there is an increase, but at the end of the day, its just ****
Did you even read the link you posted? Even if we assume the number is 40 million (with 10 million illegals) you would still have a decrease in uninsured.
Of the 55 million "Uninsured Nonelderly People" the report lists for 2013, only 11 million, or 20 percent, are projected to obtain insurance during 2014; the number of uninsured falls only to 44 million next year according to the CBO.
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Originally Posted by pghquest
If all of these taxes are going up, then how the hell is it more affordable? You are now arguing against your own premace..
When did I claim anything was "affordable"? I claimed that the bailout provision included in the ACA would most likely not be needed or even utilized as the risk pool stabilizes and people start enrolling.
haha, this is almost as funny as you using facebook as a source of news..
Now its twitter.. with an image of people standing outside of something, waiting for their handouts I presume..
HeyJude, if i take a photo of a black person dead in the street from a gunshot wound, and then post it, would you then cite it as evidence that all blacks have been killed?
Waah! The Republicans lied to me! People really DO want healthcare. Waaah!
Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310 It's funny how conservatives love to move the goal post...
You are spinning your wheels when trying to reason with some in here. It's like having an "I know you are, but what am I?" argument.
You're right, Obama didn't move the 7 million goalpost. He denied the goalpost ever existed, lowered the non-existent goalpost to 6 million, then boasted about reaching the 7 million non-goalpost.
Did you even read the link you posted? Even if we assume the number is 40 million (with 10 million illegals) you would still have a decrease in uninsured.
Thats after you kicked millions off of their previous policies Why would you count people as newly insured that previously had insurance but lost it over the very same bill or count illegals and such which arent covered?
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Originally Posted by lycos679
When did I claim anything was "affordable"? I claimed that the bailout provision included in the ACA would most likely not be needed or even utilized as the risk pool stabilizes and people start enrolling.
Actually what you claimed was that the cost would come down as more people signed up, but once again, the CBO said more people arent signing up..
Thats not even to discuss the fact which is there isnt a dam thing in ACA to reduce the cost.
You're right, Obama didn't move the 7 million goalpost. He denied the goalpost ever existed, lowered the non-existent goalpost to 6 million, then boasted about reaching the 7 million non-goalpost.
The seven million was the CBO projection. It was downgraded after the botched rollout of the website because it was thought that there was no way they could reach it having essentially lost two months of sign up time. But lo and behold, they reached it even with a greatly shortened sign up period, largely propelled by a late surge of Americans who stood in line in order to get healthcare.
The real mooches are those that refuse to pay for healthcare but then when they need it avail themselves of social welfare to pay for their maladies.
Those that sign on to the ACA are paying monthly healthcare payments to insurance companies.
I agree, those able to afford premiums per objective income data should, in the event of medical bills, be treated like student loan holders. For that group, medical bills should be permanently non-dischargeable in every Bankruptcy Court in the land.
I agree, those able to afford premiums per objective income data should, in the event of medical bills, be treated like student loan holders. For that group, medical bills should be permanently non-dischargeable in every Bankruptcy Court in the land.
Haha, I thought these people were getting sick and dying because they didnt have insurance..
Waah! The Republicans lied to me! People really DO want healthcare. Waaah!
If people didnt want healthcare, then why is it an employer benefit?
Can you cite for me a Republican who said that? or are you now just blabbering stupid crap to embarass yourself even more?
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