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Old 04-06-2014, 02:12 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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It is only going to be a matter of time until the so-called 'War on Drugs' morphs into an all-new 'War on Tax Evasion' so the state can attempt to recoup its losses to the ongoing illicit (i.e. "untaxed") drug trade.

At that point, we can indeed call it an epic failure. It's only a matter of time.

the biggest failure is the unwinnable 76 year war on pot..
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:22 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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This isn't surprising, the liberal denial of the slippery slope argument was nothing more than a distraction.
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:40 PM
 
Location: California
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Default Legalize all Drugs: Did we not Learn from Prohibition?

Sounds like a great idea being I don't need drugs to be happy It should open up a whole new world of job opportunities for me.
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Old 04-06-2014, 08:24 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Legalization suggests agreement with the use of drugs. Children and teens are very astute about the legalization issue and often use this as their reason for early use/ abuse. I understand your premise of allowing people to make their own decision and the possible lessening of substance use with legalization ( I.E.-Prohibition) but the effect on our young people is important to consider. We as parents and "village members" no longer do our part with protective factors for our youth, so the government has taken over that role. Like it or not, I do not see a total elimination of laws against drugs.
I also think your statistics are incorrect. Early use of drugs have been documents to lead to psychotic symptoms in adulthood. Long term use of marijuana can lead to use of stronger drugs because of the tolerance issue. Larger quantity of drugs/more intense to obtain the same high. Your assertion of who dies from drugs is false. You need to review the SAMSHA data for clarity.

And you keep the kids from your alcohol and beer pretty well, don't you?
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Old 04-06-2014, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Oxycotin users switch to heroin when their doctor(s) realizes their prescription drugs created an addict and cuts them off.
They should try the herbal drug called Kratom to get weaned off of prescription drugs. It also can work for getting weaned off heroin addiction. They may end up becoming addicted to Kratom, but at least it's next to impossible to overdose and die from Kratom.
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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I hope you feel safe driving your automobile.

El Nox
1) The legal status of drugs does not prevent people from driving high.

2) 70% of the U.S. population is on prescription medication. That works out to 231,000,000 people taking some for of prescription drug. Of these people 30% (70,000,000) are on mind altering drugs.

I hope YOU feel safe driving. Would you feel better if you were killed on the roadway by someone intoxicated by a legal drug?
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:12 AM
 
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1) The legal status of drugs does not prevent people from driving high.

2) 70% of the U.S. population is on prescription medication. That works out to 231,000,000 people taking some for of prescription drug. Of these people 30% (70,000,000) are on mind altering drugs.

I hope YOU feel safe driving. Would you feel better if you were killed on the roadway by someone intoxicated by a legal drug?
Its a huge leap to take when you determine that if someone is against driving under the influence of pot is bad that you support driving under the influence of prescription meds.

That is already illegal and I see no one trying to change that.

P.S. claims like 70% of the people are on prescription drugs is worthless without some valid verification of that so I call B.S. on this claim.
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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the biggest failure is the unwinnable 76 year war on pot..
There is no expectation that law enforcement will ever eradicate all crime, but it does not mean we should just give up. Only losers do that. What if the Dutch gave up on maintaining their levees, because they have not caused the ocean to pull back? Law enforcement is like a levee, which holds the water back. Everyone knows the water isn't going to disappear, and neither will crime.
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:40 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There is no expectation that law enforcement will ever eradicate all crime, but it does not mean we should just give up. Only losers do that. What if the Dutch gave up on maintaining their levees, because they have not caused the ocean to pull back? Law enforcement is like a levee, which holds the water back. Everyone knows the water isn't going to disappear, and neither will crime.

We the people are our own law enforcement. If you see a concern, it is up to you as an American to confront your problems, not let someone else fight your battles. Which led to the phrase, "pick your battles wisely"
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Old 04-07-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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1) The legal status of drugs does not prevent people from driving high.
True ... but I'm not sure the relevance of this statement to legalizing drugs.

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2) 70% of the U.S. population is on prescription medication. That works out to 231,000,000 people taking some for of prescription drug. Of these people 30% (70,000,000) are on mind altering drugs.
Same comment as above, but not all prescription drugs impair driving ability. Now the 30%, therein lies a problem when they get behind the wheel.

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I hope YOU feel safe driving.
When I'm driving, I feel perfectly safe ... it's the other idiots that I worry about. How about you?

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Would you feel better if you were killed on the roadway by someone intoxicated by a legal drug?
Every morning I get up hoping that today I will get killed on the roadway by someone intoxicated by a legal drug.

El Nox
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