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Old 12-15-2014, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Florida
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From Torturing to Killing Innocent People: This Is Who We Are*|*Jeff Bachman

Yes, the CIA, in your name and mine, tortured and killed innocent people.

it happened.
The scary thing here is that there are so many people who approve torture. That means they are more than willing to allow it to happen again.
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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From Torturing to Killing Innocent People: This Is Who We Are*|*Jeff Bachman

Yes, the CIA, in your name and mine, tortured and killed innocent people.

it happened.
they were not innocent

why are you trying to say a terrorist is innocent????
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Tell that to Nick Berg who was decapitated in response to US torture. Tell that to all US servicemen who died as a result of foreign fighters flooding in as a response to US torture. Torture didn't save anyone's life.
uhm..nick berg was killed in 2004......

not due to '''cia torture'''.....even with out '''cia torture'''' nick would have been beheaded by those animals
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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they were not innocent

why are you trying to say a terrorist is innocent????
Do you even read before you post?

We took 4 men, who local tribal leaders had an issue with, to black sites. After about a week, we discovered that the men weren't terrorists, that they had been set up and local leaders just got us to do dirty work for them. We didn't release them, in fact, we kept torturing them. One of these men we stripped naked and let him die of hypothermia on the floor of an interrogation cell.

Read. Yes, we captured and killed innocent men, men who committed no acts of terror against us, or their home country. No different then African leaders selling rival tribes to slavery, but they were not terrorists.

And you're ok with that?
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Everyone should be outraged that the CIA was using interrogation techniques that have been proven to be ineffective, and as a result an innumerable amount of people have died due to their incompetence.
None of that matters to torture supporters. What matters is that it makes them feel better when they're scared or sad.
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Probably owing in part to the scope of the program, and in part to the haste with which it was put together, there were quite a few hiccups along the way. Estimates say 26 of the 119 known*detainees*— a full quarter of the program — were wrongfully detained. "These included an 'intellectually challenged'*man whose CIA detention was used solely as leverage to get a family member to provide information, two individuals who were intelligence sources for foreign liaison services and were former CIA sources, and two individuals whom the CIA assessed to be connected to al-Qa'ida based solely on information fabricated by a CIA detainee subjected to the CIA's enhanced interrogation techniques," the report says.

A pair of CIA sources were tortured through sleep deprivation before the agents realized they were good guys and finally read their messages. “After both detainees had spent approximately 24 hours shackled in the standing sleep deprivation position, CIA Headquarters confirmed that the detainees were former CIA sources. The two detainees had tried to contact the CIA on multiple occasions prior to their detention to inform the CIA of their activities and provide intelligence.”

Sometimes, the interrogations went even further, including at least one that resulted in the death of the detainee. The agent was not punished.

5 Appalling Takeaways From CIA Torture Report -- NYMag
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Florida
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uhm..nick berg was killed in 2004......

not due to '''cia torture'''.....even with out '''cia torture'''' nick would have been beheaded by those animals
He was beheaded in response to US torture being blasted all over the news. Oh, yes, CIA was very much resent in Abu Gharib.

For example:

in November 2003, CIA officers brought a prisoner, Manadel al-Jamadi, to Abu Ghraib and, instead of turning him over to the Army, took him to a shower stall. They put a sandbag over his head, handcuffed him behind his back and chained his arms to a barred window. When he leaned forward, his arms stretched painfully behind and above his back.

The CIA interrogated al-Jamadi alone. Within an hour, he was dead.
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:53 AM
 
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He was beheaded in response to US torture being blasted all over the news. Oh, yes, CIA was very much resent in Abu Gharib.
he was beheaded for being there...being caught in the AO

his killer Abu_Musab_al-Zarqawi also killed and beheaded people in 2001...well before Abu Gharib



just because someone CLAIMS it was in retaliation of.... doesn't mean it is

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

luckily we got this POS in 2006
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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he was beheaded for being there...being caught in the AO

his killer Abu_Musab_al-Zarqawi also killed and beheaded people in 2001...well before Abu Gharib



just because someone CLAIMS it was in retaliation of.... doesn't mean it is

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

luckily we got this POS in 2006
Now, back to the bull**** you said before.

So you're ok with detaining, torturing, and killing innocent people?
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:56 AM
 
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he was beheaded for being there...being caught in the AO

his killer Abu_Musab_al-Zarqawi also killed and beheaded people in 2001...well before Abu Gharib

just because someone CLAIMS it was in retaliation of.... doesn't mean it is
Just because you CLAIM he would have been beheaded anyway, does not make it true. He was beheaded in response to US torture and prisoner abuse. Whether or not he would have been executed anyway is pure speculation.

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Nicholas Evan "Nick" Berg (April 2, 1978 – May 7, 2004) was an American freelance radio tower repairman who went to Iraq
after the United States invasion of Iraq. He was abducted and beheaded according to a video released in May 2004 by
Islamist militants in response to the Any Gharib torture and prisoner abuse
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