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Old 04-29-2014, 06:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by OICU812 View Post
Yeah sure, because the judge thinks poor and minority voters can't get a FREE ID from the DMV because they can't spell DMV much less find it on a map.
The documents required to get the FREE ID are not free.

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Originally Posted by pollyrobin View Post
Oh please. It's 2014. They should get off their ass and get a proper I.D.
A photo ID is not required for voting. It is 100% unconstitutional. Any unnecessary burden on citizens from the government is considered a tax. Poll taxes are a direct violation of the 24th Amendment.

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Originally Posted by Tuck's Dad View Post
I have never understood the logic that voter ID keeps the poor from voting because they can't get a government issued ID. You have to have ID to get food stamps, WICK, Obamacare, etc., etc., etc.

Who exactly are these poor people without IDs? Or is this issue just a Mitch Snyder homeless number - made up!
Those forms of IDs are banned in the states with a Voter ID

Gun ID is valid though! Student IDs are also banned, despite student IDs requiring residency information.

It isn't about the damned ID or voter fraud; it is about prohibiting "undesirables" (poor, minority, and college students) from voting so the GOP has a better chance at winning.
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Old 04-29-2014, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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No, I prefer how Oregon does their voter registration and voting.
Registration in Oregon allows you to register without proving citizenship. You're okay with that?

http://www.eac.gov/assets/1/Document...1-1-13_ENG.pdf
Here are the state specific instructions for Oregon from the Federal Voter Registration form. The relevant block where one would or would not show ID and prove citizenship is block 6. For Oregon, you can write NONE and thus not prove either citizenship, identity, or that you are registering to the state where you live.
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Registration Deadline — 21 days
before the election.

6. ID Number. Federal law requires
that you provide your driver’s
license number to register to vote.
If you do not have a driver’s license
then you will have to provide at
least the last four digits of your
social security number. If you have
neither, you will need to write
“NONE” on the form. A unique
identifying number will instead be
assigned to you by your State.

7. Choice of Party. You must
register with a party if you want to
take part in that party’s primary
election.

8. Race or Ethnic Group. Leave
blank.

9. Signature. To register in Oregon
you must:
• be a citizen of the United States
• be a resident of Oregon
• be at least 18 years old by
election day
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Old 04-29-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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A photo ID is not required for voting. It is 100% unconstitutional. Any unnecessary burden on citizens from the government is considered a tax. Poll taxes are a direct violation of the 24th Amendment.
The Supreme Court says you're wrong. In Crawford v. Madison County, they ruled that photo ID, aka Voter ID, is constitutional.
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Old 04-29-2014, 06:07 PM
 
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Registration in Oregon allows you to register without proving citizenship. You're okay with that?

http://www.eac.gov/assets/1/Document...1-1-13_ENG.pdf
Here are the state specific instructions for Oregon from the Federal Voter Registration form. The relevant block where one would or would not show ID and prove citizenship is block 6. For Oregon, you can write NONE and thus not prove either citizenship, identity, or that you are registering to the state where you live.

I'm sure Oregon has a massive, widescale voter fraud problem!!!

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Old 04-29-2014, 06:08 PM
 
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She has never learned how to drive and she grew up in an era where you didn't need an ID for everything.
Baloney - she lived well past the "I was born in the 20's in a one room house with no lights
and no birth certificate, blah blah blah.

Do you make excuses about everything she does not want to do.
96 years is ample time to get identification in this country.

She did not live the last 30 years in America where she could not get an I.D.
and you don't have to drive to get a picture I.D. either.

And if she can't produce one in person, register to vote and get an absentee ballot
mailed to her home. Or what, she can't mail a letter either.
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Old 04-29-2014, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I'm sure Oregon has a massive, widescale voter fraud problem!!!

How would you prove it if it didn't? If you never require valid ID, never require proof of citizenship, tell me how would you prove it? See, that's the admittedly genius thing the Democrats did. They rigged the system so we can't even prove voter fraud is taking place. However, we can point out how easy they have made it to engage in fraud. Do you not value and want to protect our voting process? I do. I don't want it wide open to fraud like it is now.
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Old 04-29-2014, 06:11 PM
 
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A photo ID is not required for voting. It is 100% unconstitutional. Any unnecessary burden on citizens from the government is considered a tax. Poll taxes are a direct violation of the 24th Amendment.
Still on that kick. Got to prove you are a citizen before you start crying "unconstitutionality".

Got to go. I have a 94 year old Aunt to drive to the store who wants to play the lottery.
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Old 04-29-2014, 06:12 PM
 
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The Supreme Court says you're wrong. In Crawford v. Madison County, they ruled that photo ID, aka Voter ID, is constitutional.
The Supreme Court also ruled that segregation was constitutional.

The Supreme Court will overturn that case in due time.

The Supreme Court also lifted the residency requirements of student voters that were denied. (In North Carolina, a Student ID is not acceptable photo ID). Violation of the 26th Amendment.

The crooks bought themselves some time.. but the strings will unravel.
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Old 04-29-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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The Supreme Court also ruled that segregation was constitutional.

The Supreme Court will overturn that case in due time.

The Supreme Court also lifted the residency requirements of student voters that were denied. (In North Carolina, a Student ID is not acceptable photo ID). Violation of the 26th Amendment.

The crooks bought themselves some time.. but the strings will unravel.
So you were wrong. Is this your way of admitting that?
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Old 04-29-2014, 06:14 PM
 
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How would you prove it if it didn't? If you never require valid ID, never require proof of citizenship, tell me how would you prove it? See, that's the admittedly genius thing the Democrats did. They rigged the system so we can't even prove voter fraud is taking place. However, we can point out how easy they have made it to engage in fraud. Do you not value and want to protect our voting process? I do. I don't want it wide open to fraud like it is now.
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Still on that kick. Got to prove you are a citizen before you start crying "unconstitutionality".

Got to go. I have a 94 year old Aunt to drive to the store who wants to play the lottery.
You do realize that these folks are already registered, right?!

Don't move the goalpost. The issue is photo ID, not citizenship. A 70+ year old black person from the deep South probably does not have the ability to retrieve their birth certificate.

Citizenship is proven with a social security card.
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