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View Poll Results: If it were scientifically proven that homosexuality is not a choice, would you still support gay mar
Yes 113 81.29%
No 26 18.71%
Voters: 139. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-18-2014, 11:13 PM
 
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I find this to be an odd question. What relevance does the cause of homosexuality have on whether or not homosexual people should be allowed to marry?
The idea here would be that, if such a revelation came up, homosexuality would thus be unnatural and therefore legally allowing homosexuals to marry would be encouraging unnatural behavior.
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Old 05-18-2014, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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The idea here would be that, if such a revelation came up, homosexuality would thus be unnatural and therefore legally allowing homosexuals to marry would be encouraging unnatural behavior.
Having computers in government offices also encourages unnatural behavior.
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Old 05-18-2014, 11:33 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Religions Argument =/= Liberty Argument


If homosexuality was found to be a choice( Do you really think people choose to go through all that B.S. ? ) it would change nothing. Being gay would be a choice but it wouldnt change that it is a choice that hurts no one.
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Old 05-18-2014, 11:54 PM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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The idea here would be that, if such a revelation came up, homosexuality would thus be unnatural and therefore legally allowing homosexuals to marry would be encouraging unnatural behavior.
Believing in a supernatural being is unnatural, humans are the only animal that has created a creator in its image. Encouraging religion is encouraging an unnatural behavior, a chosen behavior.
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Old 05-19-2014, 12:52 AM
 
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Would those who support "marriage equality" back away from their position?
I would not no. Because is sexuality IS a choice then heterosexuals make that choice too. Which again brings it back to being an equality issue. Why should we as "straights" be allowed to make the choice to be straight, but homosexuals can not?

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Then you have a civil union, not a marriage. Marriage is a religious institution.
No, it is not. Religious institutions are just one of the service providers in ceremonies for people getting married. They are essentially meaningless and are tacked on to the front of actual marriage. Which still has to be done behind the scenes officially and legally. The ceremony you people tack on the front is just bluff and bluster and means exactly nothing.

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It doesn't change the fact many people like myself see it as a religious institution.
And many people see fairies. Seeing something as X does not mean it IS X. Simply telling us you "see" it that way tells us exactly nothing. Have you any arguments, evidence, data or reasoning then it is how you choose to see it? Or are declarations by fiat and assertion all we can expect from you as usual?
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Old 05-19-2014, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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The idea here would be that, if such a revelation came up, homosexuality would thus be unnatural and therefore legally allowing homosexuals to marry would be encouraging unnatural behavior.
Like I said earlier, if homosexuality was a choice, nobody would choose it and it would be a moot point.

Probably about 90 percent of gay people go through a "denial" period and date the opposite sex before accepting themselves. Once they accept themselves, their feelings change, but if it were a choice, this would never need to happen.
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Old 05-19-2014, 06:31 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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This a public poll. Look very carefully at the now 80% who support gay marriage of two consenting adults, regardless of the OP's premise. I see several c-d members extreme lefties have branded as supposedly extreme right-wing and intolerant listed under the Yes votes.

Take heed. Limited government supporters are exactly that. Limit government. That means marriage, as well. Get the government OUT of marriage altogether.
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Old 05-19-2014, 07:05 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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What 2 CONSENTING adults do in their private lives isn't my concern. It ain't up to me to judge. I'll leave that up to God.
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Old 05-19-2014, 07:29 AM
 
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No, it is not. Religious institutions are just one of the service providers in ceremonies for people getting married. They are essentially meaningless and are tacked on to the front of actual marriage. Which still has to be done behind the scenes officially and legally. The ceremony you people tack on the front is just bluff and bluster and means exactly nothing.
Unfortunately for you, the vast majority of society believes that exchanging vows in a house of God is very significant and important.




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And many people see fairies. Seeing something as X does not mean it IS X. Simply telling us you "see" it that way tells us exactly nothing. Have you any arguments, evidence, data or reasoning then it is how you choose to see it? Or are declarations by fiat and assertion all we can expect from you as usual?

Most weddings are conducted in church or a synagogue for a reason. Most people associate marriage with a religious element. If religion has no bearing then why isn't a civil union good enough for gay people?

Furthermore, if you want to go against the grain of society, have at it, but don't demand that I provide evidence. If you want evidence, go seek it yourself. Christians owe you nothing.
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Old 05-19-2014, 07:53 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Then you have a civil union, not a marriage. Marriage is a religious institution. But gays want to be "married" because in their eyes, equality means forcing society to accept their union as being just as natural and normal as the marriage of a man and a woman.

Depends on your state. In NC, legal marriage and civil unions are different (same-sex partners are barred from both).

Gays want equal protection under the law - why do you oppose that for other (presumably) law-abiding, tax-paying citizens? Not very American of you, honestly.
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