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Old 06-29-2014, 06:23 AM
 
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You've got mail and an IRS auditor knocking on your door: Examiner Editorial | WashingtonExaminer.com

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What would you do if you opened a piece of mail addressed to you, only to discover that it was clearly intended for one of your neighbors? Most people would stop reading and simply forward it. It would seem right and moral – if not legally required – to avoid taking advantage of or otherwise exploiting the information in a letter intended for someone else.

Evidently, such ethical standards do not concern some politically engaged people at the IRS.
What is the difference between Lois Lerner opening an envelope mistakenly for meant for someone else. Inside a company offers to sell this individual stock at a discount. Lerner than thinks that this warrants an audit for the most recent year, because the intended recipient 'might' buy the stock and then 'might' not report the proper capital gains in a future year.

 
Old 06-29-2014, 06:47 AM
 
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You've got mail and an IRS auditor knocking on your door: Examiner Editorial | WashingtonExaminer.com



What is the difference between Lois Lerner opening an envelope mistakenly for meant for someone else. Inside a company offers to sell this individual stock at a discount. Lerner than thinks that this warrants an audit for the most recent year, because the intended recipient 'might' buy the stock and then 'might' not report the proper capital gains in a future year.
So you too believe senior politicians should be free of having to abide by the IRS code?
 
Old 06-29-2014, 06:51 AM
 
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So you too believe senior politicians should be free of having to abide by the IRS code?
Nobody violated it in this case.
 
Old 06-29-2014, 06:55 AM
 
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Nobody violated it in this case.
And no investigation was made.

But the argument is that senior IRS officials had no right to consider doing one. That would imply that the should not follow up suspicions on senior politicians.
 
Old 06-29-2014, 06:55 AM
 
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100% of tea party groups had their applications flagged and delayed.
This is fiction. I just listed two conservative 501c-4 organization that received tax exempt status in 2010 and 2011 and both which spent huge amounts of money.


Again anyone who believes that conservative organizations didn't have plenty of money spent by 501c-4 tax exempt organizations is in fantasyland. Anyone who believes that no conservative organizations got tax exempt status is in fantasyland.
 
Old 06-29-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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And, not just the wealthy. Citizens United ruling makes it possible for corporations to pour money into these organizations with no one knowing.

The main attraction for these organizations is that unlike other exempt organizations they don't have to publish their donors for the public to see.

Millions of dark dollars going into these organizations to buy politicians/elections. Is that what Americans want. I doubt it.
Exactly and that's why these organizations apply for tax exempt status to keep their donors secret. This is why it's a huge scam. These partisan political organizations should not get tax exempt status.

The real scandal of this whole thing is that partisan political organizations fueled by very wealthy people who are trying to game the system by keeping it all secret all the while getting tax savings on the money they spend to control/influence politicians and government.
 
Old 06-29-2014, 07:02 AM
 
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And no investigation was made.
I agree. It goes towards Lerner's skewed view of the world though. He's a (R) so he has to be doing something wrong.

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But the argument is that senior IRS officials had no right to consider doing one. That would imply that the should not follow up suspicions on senior politicians.
There was nothing to be suspicious over. Nothing illegal was done. Unlike someone who routinely fails to report required items with absolutely nothing done about it.

Charlie Rangel Failed to Report All-Expenses-Paid Trip to China - NationalJournal.com
 
Old 06-29-2014, 07:04 AM
 
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You've got mail and an IRS auditor knocking on your door: Examiner Editorial | WashingtonExaminer.com



What is the difference between Lois Lerner opening an envelope mistakenly for meant for someone else. Inside a company offers to sell this individual stock at a discount. Lerner than thinks that this warrants an audit for the most recent year, because the intended recipient 'might' buy the stock and then 'might' not report the proper capital gains in a future year.
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So you too believe senior politicians should be free of having to abide by the IRS code?
Try reading this again and taking off your Obamabot hat.

Everyone should follow the law.

Why should someone be audited today for being offered to buy stock (legally) in the future?

Why should someone be audited today for being offered to attend an event with their wife (legally) in the future?

Why was she wanting to target someone for what they "might" do in the future based on an invitation? Politics.

She has a history of harassing conservatives and inappropriate inquiries through her government position.

IRS's Lerner Had History of Harassment, Inappropriate Religious Inquiries at FEC | The Weekly Standard
 
Old 06-29-2014, 07:06 AM
 
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Exactly and that's why these organizations apply for tax exempt status to keep their donors secret. This is why it's a huge scam. These partisan political organizations should not get tax exempt status.
Who donates to the ACLU? Are they tax exempt? Do they influence policy?

Are you really surprised that people want to support groups they agree with but don't want to be demonized for it?

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The real scandal of this whole thing is that partisan political organizations fueled by very wealthy people who are trying to game the system by keeping it all secret all the while getting tax savings on the money they spend to control/influence politicians and government.
You can not take a tax break on donating to 501c4 groups.
 
Old 06-29-2014, 07:08 AM
 
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This is fiction.
Yes it is fiction becsue it wasn't just the tea party.

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http://waysandmeans.house.gov/upload...in_6.26.13.pdf

In total, 30 percent of the organizations we identified with the words "progress"
or "progressive" in their names were processed as potential political cases. In
comparison, our audit found that 100 percent of the tax-exempt applications with Tea
Party, Patriots, or 9/12 i
n their names were processed as potential political cases during
the timeframe of our audit.
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