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Some people really have short memories, an axe to grind against Republicans and no knowledge of America's intelligence gathering and oversea's operations other than the biased web sites/news articles they read...
Some people really have short memories, an axe to grind against Republicans and no knowledge of America's intelligence gathering and oversea's operations other than the biased web sites/news articles they read...
Answer the question. Did Reagan or Bush transform the CIA?
The Intelligence Committee was investigating the CIA on it's torture program, and the CIA illegally spies on the committee. When accusations arose, the director said such accusations are "absolutely untrue, beyond the scope of reason"
When the snake says that you can trust it when you pick it up, don't be surprised when you get bit. Even the snake admits that this is what it does, it is a snake, after all.
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The director of the Central Intelligence Agency, John Brennan, issued an extraordinary apology to leaders of the US Senate intelligence committee on Thursday, conceding that the agency employees spied on committee staff and reversing months of furious and public denials.
Brennan acknowledged that an internal investigation had found agency security personnel transgressed a firewall set up on a CIA network, which allowed Senate committee investigators to review agency documents for their landmark inquiry into CIA torture.
Among other things, it was revealed that agency officials conducted keyword searches and email searches on committee staff while they used the network.
The Intelligence Committee was investigating the CIA on it's torture program, and the CIA illegally spies on the committee. When accusations arose, the director said such accusations are "absolutely untrue, beyond the scope of reason"
When the snake says that you can trust it when you pick it up, don't be surprised when you get bit. Even the snake admits that this is what it does, it is a snake, after all.
Been reading some books as of late about our Intel agencies, and it's pretty clear that our main intelligence agency is about as inept as they come. One of the worst Intel agencies in the world.
To boot, they've gone far beyond what they were intended to do...gather good intelligence, filter it, and present clear and concise Intel to the executive branch.
They aren't supposed to be participating in wars, overthrowing governments, and supplying weapons to governments or insurgent groups.
This country needs and deserves a top notch intelligence service, and we don't have it
Should we keep and reform what we have, or should we scrap it the way we did the OSS and start over...with a fresh mandate?
You only hear about the failures. Did you think they would blow the cover on successful opperations by publishing them in the news? As for your idea of what they should and should not be doing: What exactly do you think the purpose of gathering all that intel is, anyway? The whole idea is to use it. Who better to put that use into action than the person who gathered it in the first place? They know who everybody is, they know where all the locations are, they understand the situation. An outsider would have to be briefed on all of these things and still would not know it as well--and there is the danger that the more people who know about an opperation the more likely it will leak.
You only hear about the failures. Did you think they would blow the cover on successful opperations by publishing them in the news? As for your idea of what they should and should not be doing: What exactly do you think the purpose of gathering all that intel is, anyway? The whole idea is to use it. Who better to put that use into action than the person who gathered it in the first place? They know who everybody is, they know where all the locations are, they understand the situation. An outsider would have to be briefed on all of these things and still would not know it as well--and there is the danger that the more people who know about an opperation the more likely it will leak.
Would this be the same intelligence that brought us the invasion and occupation of Iraq? How about the intel that defied logic when it said we could install a puppet named Ahmed Chalabi to do our bidding there, and that we would be "greeted as liberators"? Would it be the same intel that appropriated funding of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan when, two decades later, they killed 3000 Americans? How about selling arms to Iran and taking the proceeds and funding rightwing death squads in Nicaragua, of which many would go on to become gang leaders that today are responsible for the flood of children to the U.S. throughout Central America trying to escape the handiwork of the CIA?
You only hear about the failures. Did you think they would blow the cover on successful opperations by publishing them in the news? As for your idea of what they should and should not be doing: What exactly do you think the purpose of gathering all that intel is, anyway? The whole idea is to use it. Who better to put that use into action than the person who gathered it in the first place? They know who everybody is, they know where all the locations are, they understand the situation. An outsider would have to be briefed on all of these things and still would not know it as well--and there is the danger that the more people who know about an opperation the more likely it will leak.
You only hear about the failures because that's what they are..a failure of an organization. And worse, we don't even know all the failures, but the ones we do know about are bad enough.
I mean damn...they didn't stop 9/11 and they didn't know there were no WMD in Iraq.
Those two alone should be enough for any sane person to know that the agency is broken.
If they had so many stunning successes, they'd make damn sure that we knew about it.
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