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What a crock of manure. There is nothing more ridiculous than a bunch of sanctimonious libs all patting themselves on the back for how wonderful they are because "we don't act that way." How quick you folks forgot the days after 9/11 and how hard this country had to fight to get back on it's feet.
What a crock of manure. There is nothing more ridiculous than a bunch of sanctimonious libs all patting themselves on the back for how wonderful they are because "we don't act that way." How quick you folks forgot the days after 9/11 and how hard this country had to fight to get back on it's feet.
Which would have been accomplished without torturing people.
Trying someone in absentia is a valid way to make sure one does not simply deny one's due process rights. Groups pled for a trial for Anwar al-Awlaki but the government refused. There was no reason to not grant him one in absentia if indeed the government had proof he had committed crimes.
We even tried Ira Einhorn that way.
Those are NOT the only two options. We had plenty of time to have granted Anwar al-Awlaki a trial. A military trial can even be done in fairly quick order. At least then there is a record of the charges and proof of the claims. Remember the government made all sorts of claims against Bradley Manning that the courts found to not be the case once he was granted a trial.
No I do not support the government doing away with a persons due process rights no matter who they are simply on their word they do not deserve them. That is NOT the administrations call to give.
The government has been known to lie, no?
Or grant them a trial in absentia. No where in the Constitution does it grant the government the right to simply ignore a persons due process rights. It's funny that you have a problem with torture but not murder.
He convicted himself through his own words. He was a Traitor and a Terrorist, period. Stop supporting him. When the government does this to ordinary citizens I will stand by you, until then the MF got what he deserved. Now back to the topic, you cannot defend
He convicted himself through his own words. He was a Traitor and a Terrorist, period. Stop supporting him. When the government does this to ordinary citizens I will stand by you, until then the MF got what he deserved. Now back to the topic, you cannot defend
I'm not trying to. Again, Manning was found innocent of the charges the government would have used to kill him if he had been in another country.
What a crock of manure. There is nothing more ridiculous than a bunch of sanctimonious libs all patting themselves on the back for how wonderful they are because "we don't act that way." How quick you folks forgot the days after 9/11 and how hard this country had to fight to get back on it's feet.
I don't know if you were busy digging for victims at Ground Zero or something, but my life for the month after 9/11 was not significantly different from the month immediately before it. Except that I got married, and had a rather nice honeymoon.
I don't recall thinking at any juncture, "how much better would my life be if our government would start torturing people."
My apologies for the bad edit, but not the sentiment. I knew too many libs in the Beltway area quivering in their boots and demanding action, first during the anthrax scare, then the Beltway shooter incident. Now all of a sudden you folks are pure and clean? Not a chance. Obamaworld has created a lot of selective memories.
I don't know who "you folks" are supposed to be.
All I can tell you is that I have always been opposed to torture. It's wrong when other countries do it. And there is no justification that is acceptable. I don't think being opposed to torture is a liberal principle. It's just a principle. Which I've always believed that the United States stood for.
No one was tortured, a few really, really bad guys were water boarded to attain valuable information to save American lives. obama is against anything that might save an American life. He hates America and Americans, and he hates all you tools who are ignorant enough to still support him. You are pawns who he uses and laughs at, just as does any good con man laugh at his victims. You should all have S, for sucker tattooed on your foreheads..
Now go live with yourselves...
Cognitive dissonance in action. Says we didn't torture anyone...except those guys. And oh, them over there. And those in Gitmo and people we sent to black ops sites...and...and...and.
Once again it's shown that my post wasn't even read, you simply lashed out.
You going to ask me the question or continue to make statements?
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