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Old 09-10-2014, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
For people like myself - with a portable, fairly well-paid skillset - the differences in day-to-day life are actually kinda minor. What I pay in tax and other necessities like health insurance, 401(k) etc. here in the US is not, as a percentage, that different from what I'd be paying in Denmark.
Yes, when you factor in health insurance and property tax in US, the monthly deductions are about the same as in Nordic countries. 401K, collage education etc are additional expenses in US.

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Old 09-10-2014, 11:26 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I tend to dislike and distrust people who aren't like me. If you say you are from New Jersey, I assume you are a liberal and are probably employed in some capacity in finance/investments. I hate liberals, I hate investors/speculators, and I hate bankers.
Wow, that's unbelievable!

No wonder there is such a divide between liberals and conservatives.

Must be your red-neck upbringing...there, I made an assumption about you as you made about me (but it goes against my nature to make assumptions about anyone).
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Must be your red-neck upbringing...there, I made an assumption about you as you made about me (but it goes against my nature to make assumptions about anyone).
Good, at least if you are making assumptions then you are an actual human being with a working brain. I was worried for a minute that you were a soulless and hollow nobody, incapable of independent thinking.

I'm proud of you.

I don't feel any differently about people form Jersey as I do people from Mexico or Canada. In fact, I've actually met plenty of Canadians and Mexicans that I do like. I've never met a single individual from New Jersey that I like. Even when I see them on TV, they look like a bunch of entitled, arrogant idiots.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:29 PM
 
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The US has lots of O&G due to technological advances, we have a glut presently. It just requires a better overall energy policy to exploit like Norway. But yes, we won't have the same proportion of natural resources to GDP or revenue like Norway.

However, it's silly to think we can't provide the same level of entitlements as Norway. We just need to raise and spend our money better.
That right there is the problem - spending. I don't trust the government to spend the money wisely or distribute it fairly.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:34 PM
 
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Do you have anything besides generalizations......? Or do you not understand how much more of an "entitlement society" a lot of the Nordic countries are..... Or how they heavily tax O&G extraction and use the revenues.....

Would you support some type of free higher education for everyone like they would?
Only for those who can gain a degree for the betterment of society. After all, society is paying for it.

Not a plan for America, however.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:36 PM
 
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No classism in Norway?
Of course there is.

The lefties who whine about the rich here will whine about the rich there.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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There is, but there level of inequality is nowhere as high as ours.
That's because they don't have a thriving ghetto class which earns nothing.

Juan crossing the border illegally vs. hillary clinton is a HUGE inequality.
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Sweden
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Where would you place the offshore oil rigs like the ones Sweden relies on to finance their social state?
Where exactly are those oil rigs?
I have never heard of them.
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Florida
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That's because they don't have a thriving ghetto class which earns nothing.
According to poster 'workingclasshero' poverty is common in the Nordic countries.
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:36 PM
 
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Where exactly are those oil rigs?
I have never heard of them.
He's referring to Norway's oil. Even when you take that into consideration, only 4% of Norwegian oi securities finance domestic programs. The rest are invested internationally.
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