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Old 10-15-2014, 10:33 AM
 
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Bush could have said no and focused on finding/eliminating our attackers.

WHY not?

Plans to invade Iraq were being made by the Bush administration months before 9/11, refusing to alter those plans post 9/11 was of NO benefit to the US.
Why didn't the DEM CONTROLLED Senate kill the bill?

The Senate Majority Leader, a dem, CO-SPONSORED the bill as well as the dem House leader.

As we have seen with Ole' harry he can kill ANY bill he wants to.

I am glad to see that you support a leader who violated the treaty he signed, not being held accountable.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:34 AM
 
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Why do you apparently believe our assessment of threats to the US did not change on 9/11?

As you say, Clinton signed a bill allowing a subsequent POTUS to act at his/her discretion.

Regardless of Clinton signing a bill, my point is Bush used that granted discretion poorly and in a manner that caused more harm than good to the US.
Appently you never read the bill giving Bush permission.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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Nope. Yellowcake was the start down the road to invasion. And was the excuse given. In an attempt to keep it going a CIA agent was even outed.
"In an attempt to keep it going a CIA agent was even outed'

Wrong AGAIN.

Who did Fitzgerald charge and prosecute for "outing an agent" after a 2 year investigation?
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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In short, conservatives should actually read the articles they post. No, just reading the title alone doesn't count.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:49 AM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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Originally Posted by burdell View Post
Bush could have said no and focused on finding/eliminating our attackers.

WHY not?

Plans to invade Iraq were being made by the Bush administration months before 9/11, refusing to alter those plans post 9/11 was of NO benefit to the US.
Proof? We're you in the cabinet then?
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:53 AM
 
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The New York Times was very careful to insert the sentence about WMD in Iraq -- they are consistent on Bush and the Iraq War ..... ignoring once again that Congress voted for this War, based on the same intel that Bush had.

That's not what this article is really about .... and it's certainly worth a careful read. This article is all about Government LIES. They LIED about finding the Chemical Weapons. They didn't warn the soldiers about what they were doing. They didn't warn the Medical people about what the soldiers were finding. They kept it all Secret.

Over 5,000 Chemical bombs were found, many soldiers were seriously injured and they never received good medical care. They still aren't receiving good Medical care through our corrupted VA System .... that they are also LIEING about. All of this happened during the Bush years and has continued during the Obama years.

They LIE - They COVER-UP, and people suffer.

In the last paragraph of this article, we find out that the Islamic State now controls some of those known Chemical Weapons Dumps. Obama made Maliki promise to destroy them ..... Oh well - poop happens.
Can't rep you - but you are on the money.

The public wanted war (84%). Congress knew it and they voted to approve the war.

The larger issue is why they were ordered to secrecy... and why others were sent to deal with the weapons and suffered harm.

The public, he said, was misled for a decade. “I love it when I hear, ‘Oh there weren’t any chemical weapons in Iraq,’ †he said. “There were plenty.â€
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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no it meant ALSO nuclear...it has always been nuclear, biological and chemical

ask nancy Pelosi





again nuclear AND/OR biological AND/OR chemical
Don't need to. Bush made the speech.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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"In an attempt to keep it going a CIA agent was even outed'

Wrong AGAIN.
Nope.

Truth hurt? Yep.
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Lets go back to pre 911. Afghanistan had offered no imminent threat to the US until we discovered Al queda was using the country for training basis for 911. We came to the conclusion we needed to remove those training grounds as they were a threat to the country. So the Bush doctrine cam into effect which was to eliminate threats to the country by attacking terrorists before they could attack us. The Bush Doctrine. Sadam was harboring and helping various terrorists groups and even Clinton realized the threat to countries who harbored terrorist. Because Sadam had ignored UN demands for may years , because the UN and our congress approved of the action we attacked Iraq . Bush said we would not distinguish terrorist from countries that harbor them. The world and even enough of the democrats agreed there was enough of a threat after ignoring the UN to take action.
Bush left office with an elected Iraq stable government and Biden stated Iraq being stable was Obamas great achievements. If Iraq being stable was a great Achievement of Obama how is it falling apart is now Bushes fault.
Now we have ISIS and want to return to the days pre 911 and think those ISIS training camps will not bring an attack on America so lets throw a few bombs their way to show the world we care. The problem will happen when ISIS attacks America on our soil . of course with Obama he will write it off as work place violence.

Attack the terrorist where they live? or wait for them to attack us then attack them where they live?
Either way we will need to deal with them
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Attacking terrorists where they live is not the same as a full scale invasion/occupation of a country that did nothing to us. Surely if we KNEW where these alleged terror training camps were being conducted in Iraq they could have been attacked without an invasion/occupation using air strikes, cruise missiles, etc.

As it is, with al Qaeda KNOWN to have been operating in more than 40 countries at the time and there being little evidence that Iraq contained a large portion if any of its activities, a full scale invasion/occupation hardly seems a wise or effective choice of action.
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:08 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Proof? We're you in the cabinet then?

New Documents Show Bush Administration Planned War In Iraq Well Before 9/11/2001 | Crooks and Liars
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