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Old 03-14-2015, 08:22 PM
 
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Yeah, and? Murdering people is a systemic problem in the muslim culture. Atheism...not so much.
I don't believe it's a systemic problem. I wonder what the murder rate in Saudi Arabia is compared to the U.S.?

.09 per 100,000 for S.A. and 5 per 100,000 for the U.S.

Countries Compared by Crime > Murder rate. International Statistics at NationMaster.com
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Old 03-14-2015, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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I don't believe it's a systemic problem. I wonder what the murder rate in Saudi Arabia is compared to the U.S.?

.09 per 100,000 for S.A. and 5 per 100,000 for the U.S.

Countries Compared by Crime > Murder rate. International Statistics at NationMaster.com
Define murder. There are Islamic countries where stoning someone to death and honor killings are not considered murder.
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Old 03-14-2015, 08:34 PM
 
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Define murder. There are Islamic countries where stoning someone to death and honor killings are not considered murder.
I provided the stats. Your biases are yours and not something I have to concern myself with.
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I don't believe it's a systemic problem. I wonder what the murder rate in Saudi Arabia is compared to the U.S.?

.09 per 100,000 for S.A. and 5 per 100,000 for the U.S.

Countries Compared by Crime > Murder rate. International Statistics at NationMaster.com
Those stats are irrelevant. Murder is tolerated in muslim culture and even encouraged to a certain degree. Our society as a whole condemns it.
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:15 PM
 
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Those stats are irrelevant. Murder is tolerated in muslim culture and even encouraged to a certain degree. Our society as a whole condemns it.
Right, don't let the facts get in your way of a good bigoted rant.
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:17 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Cat Stevens converted in the late 70's. All the same, there are millions of Muslim's here. I see no one turning their heads concerning rapes or murders. It doesn't appear that it actually even happened in the situation posted.
There have been quite a few cases of Islamic "honor killings" in the US. That cretin in TX, that ran his daughter down with his car for wearing Western clothing comes to mind. The ones we hear about , methinks, do not even scratch the surface. I'm quite sure that a few Imams have helped dispose of bodies and destroyed evidence, via the mosque. "Religious sanctuary" and such. No, can't prove it, but it makes sense.
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Relaxing with animals
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I don't believe it's a systemic problem. I wonder what the murder rate in Saudi Arabia is compared to the U.S.?

.09 per 100,000 for S.A. and 5 per 100,000 for the U.S.

Countries Compared by Crime > Murder rate. International Statistics at NationMaster.com
In a country where people's behaviour are strictly dictated every step of the way, it shouldn't be surprising that there is less opportunity for murders and other events, simply as a consequence of extreme restriction and lack of freedom.

Also, there is that little problem of those stats relying on actual willingness of the country to REPORT them, to say nothing of keeping accurate records (as someone mentioned many Muslim dominated nations define harm to others as permissible as it is considered religious and/or punishment) and of course lack of reporting by victims/general population due to fear and complacency stemming from backward cultures,
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor believes Sharia should be allowed in the U.S.
PLease show us where this is stated... or even IMPLIED.
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:23 PM
 
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There have been quite a few cases of Islamic "honor killings" in the US. That cretin in TX, that ran his daughter down with his car for wearing Western clothing comes to mind. The ones we hear about , methinks, do not even scratch the surface. I'm quite sure that a few Imams have helped dispose of bodies and destroyed evidence, via the mosque. "Religious sanctuary" and such. No, can't prove it, but it makes sense.
There have been a ton of killings in the U.S. period.
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Relaxing with animals
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Right, don't let the facts get in your way of a good bigoted rant.
Why, when it comes to certain groups, any logical discussion or criticism of events and behaviour embarrassing to them automatically= bigotry? It's not bigotry if it's not being used to deny basic universal human rights.
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