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GZ never submitted any medical records to prove his nose was fractured. The PA testified to what GZ said he claimed happened. There was no back up like an Xray, MRI or CT Scan.
He was sent to an ENT for a follow up, never went.
You can see him hours later, running up the stairs at the police station, wearing sunglasses. He wasn't hurt as he claims he was.
It's comical that some just want the facts told, yet there are no back up to that silly claim.
The article you linked to quotes a Doctor who only watched the surveillance video. He didn't examine GZ. He watched a video. This article that I'm linking to is about documents from the actual trial that were used by the defense and seen by the prosecution. My comical facts are medical reports from a Doctor that came out in discovery at the trial. Your facts are from an old news article from a Doctor who watched a video.
"A medical report compiled by the family physician of Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Zimmerman was diagnosed with a "closed fracture" of his nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin during an alleged altercation"
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I didn't say he doesn't have issues. But it's a fact according to forensics, TM had no marks on him, other than the GSW, so he was never hit by GZ.
You do realize a finding of "no marks" on the hands, fingernails and body of Trayvon Martin and the killer's multiple versions of a blood-soaked, multi-blow beatdown of a bald-headed parking monitor doing the "shrimp" on concrete are fundamentally incompatible with one another, do you not?
To this day, I don't know how anyone can read the killer's original statements to police as anything but a script for an unintentionally comical, embarrassingly bad snuff film. You can almost hear the wheels turning in that fugly melon as he walks himself through the elements necessary for a Stand Your Ground claim, complete with D-movie dialogue that would give Plan 9 from Outer Space a run for Worst Script of All Time.
Word of advice to anyone who fires a weapon and hopes to use self-defense or SYG after the fact: Less is more; stick closely to "he was going for my gun" if that is going to be the heart of your defense. The more one fabricates and embellishes, the bigger the distance grows between words, forensics and common sense. Most people, most prosecutors, most juries are pretty adept at separating fact from fiction from fantasy, despite what we have seen from Zimmerman's apologists, prosecutors and jury. Assume your prosecutor and jury will be adept too.
GZ never submitted any medical records to prove his nose was fractured. The PA testified to what GZ said he claimed happened. There was no back up like an Xray, MRI or CT Scan.
You should stop quoting ABC. They've gotten as bad as NBC on their slanted news stories.
You do realize a finding of "no marks" on the hands, fingernails and body of Trayvon Martin and the killer's multiple versions of a blood-soaked, multi-blow beatdown of a bald-headed parking monitor doing the "shrimp" on concrete are fundamentally incompatible with one another, do you not?
According to the autopsy TM did have a scratch on one of his hands. There was also no DNA testing done on the fingernails. The DNA was tested from the hands, but not the fingernails.
To this day, I don't know how anyone can read the killer's original statements to police as anything but a script for an unintentionally comical, embarrassingly bad snuff film. You can almost hear the wheels turning in that fugly melon as he walks himself through the elements necessary for a Stand Your Ground claim, complete with D-movie dialogue that would give Plan 9 from Outer Space a run for Worst Script of All Time
The trial was simple self defense. Zimmerman was not tried on the SYG statute. I'm talking about the trial...in a court of law. There was no SYG to be determined.
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1. He gets out of his truck and follows (searching) while on the phone, which is when he is told "not to" by dispatcher, then makes arrangements to "have police call HIM and he will TELL them where he is" - (Bingo).
2. While he is supposed to be headed back to his vehicle, not on the phone, he apparently continues to follow, which is during those "minutes" many refer to.
* TM on the other hand, IS on his phone at that time, which overlaps into those minutes that Z is undoubtedly looking around still, and when Rachel overhears what occurred.
Except that Rachel's phone conversation was not being recorded, so we have only her word on what was said.
The trial was simple self defense. Zimmerman was not tried on the SYG statute. I'm talking about the trial...in a court of law. There was no SYG to be determined.
The proponents of SYG laws repeated this (yet another ) lie so often they even had Barack Obama believe it. You fell for it too.
The Florida self defense law is stand your ground. There isn't a separate "traditional self defense." At the Zimmerman trial, SYG was explicitly worded in the jury instructions.
I'm not against SYG. I'm against people murdering and getting away with it, people like Zimmerman and Seth Browning.
The proponents of SYG laws repeated this (yet another ) lie so often they even had Barack Obama believe it. You fell for it too.
The Florida self defense law is stand your ground. There isn't a separate "traditional self defense." At the Zimmerman trial, SYG was explicitly worded in the jury instructions.
"If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony"
That's the only mention of Stand Your Ground. Again, at the trial Stand Your Ground was not invoked as a defense tactic. The prosecuting attorney even stated this in his closing arguments. John Guy stated "This case is not about Stand Your Ground". That's the prosecution unequivocally stating that its not stand your ground. GZ was pinned down by TM, thus there was no possibility of retreat thus negating the SYG portion of the self defense law.
Lol. These are the jury instructions. It is the most important thing, it provides a legal frame upon which the jury will reach its decision.
Again, SYG is Florida's self defense law. There is no other. So, how could it be irrelevant to a self defense case, when it is the law of the land out there ? The fact that the lawyer did not mention it does not change one thing.
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