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Do you have a link to his suspension? Last I heard he was put on desk duty - and that was via an official statement from the Dept. of Public Safety. Hahahahahahaha. Reality is not your strong suit, my friend.
He was put on administrative leave for violating Police Policy. How could you tell anyone about "reality" since you haven't been there.
Every traffic stop is a criminal investigation. She was a criminal. That is why she went to jail.
It is not! A traffic violation is NOT a criminal investigation.
An officer stopping a driver, say, for exceeding the posted speed limit, may initiate a computer check for outstanding warrants, investigate the driver’s sobriety and license status, establish that the vehicle is properly registered and has not been reported stolen, and issue a traffic citation or warning. This initial traffic stop phase may be extended into the criminal investigation phase only if either (1) the driver consents to the continuing intrusion or (2) the officer develops during the first phase independent articulable and reasonable suspicion or probable cause to detain the driver longer. State v. Ofori:
It REALLY looks like this poor lady committed suicide, RIP!
The cop did not really handle the stop that great, probably lose his job........but can you blame him for the lady's death????
Sure you can blame him. Its easy. He put her in jail for no reason at all, and had she not been in jail, she would be alive today. They may as well have killed her themselves.
It is not! A traffic violation is NOT a criminal investigation.
An officer stopping a driver, say, for exceeding the posted speed limit, may initiate a computer check for outstanding warrants, investigate the driver’s sobriety and license status, establish that the vehicle is properly registered and has not been reported stolen, and issue a traffic citation or warning. This initial traffic stop phase may be extended into the criminal investigation phase only if either (1) the driver consents to the continuing intrusion or (2) the officer develops during the first phase independent articulable and reasonable suspicion or probable cause to detain the driver longer. State v. Ofori:
You don't litigate a traffic stop on the street. That gets you more charges. Which is always the way it's been.
To do otherwise is stupid. The woman escalated what would have been a minor ticket and fine to arrest and eventual (presumed at this point) suicide in a jail cell.
She wasn't even going to get a ticket, just a warning yet she was already acting as if she were getting a ticket. Personally, I've never had a cop give me a hard time. One time I was driving with dead tags on my car, I explained that I was a college student and had no clue that my tags were dead and he literally said:
"I have to give you a ticket today, but I'm not going to have your car towed or anything. I don't even want to give you the ticket but I have to. Just get that taken care of for me, and I won't even show up to court so till be thrown out. Do good with your studies."
And sent me on way from there, I went to court and he indeed didn't show up, the only thing I paid for that day was my parking spot. Now if I had an attitude, smoking in his face, continuing to play my music over him talking, or whatever else that can be seen as disregarding his authority then I would imagine he situation playing out differently in my case.
Another instance, I was going 90 MPH in a 55, I'm a black male driving a fairly nice car, and I'm in a suit. I see a car pulled off to the side but it seemed like an odd location for a State Trooper until I realized it was indeed a State Trooper. Of course he pulls me over and with the notorious reputation for Troopers giving tickets, I was prepared to receive one and I wasn't going to pop off at the mouth because I knew what I did was wrong, yet he let me off with a warning. I guess I'm lucky?
My point is this, I don't think this cop was seeking for this to escalate into anything more than a warning yet with her already having an attitude caused things to escalate yet he should've maintained his professionalism for the cost of his own life and for Ms. Bland's as well.
She wasn't even going to get a ticket, just a warning yet she was already acting as if she were getting a ticket. Personally, I've never had a cop give me a hard time. One time I was driving with dead tags on my car, I explained that I was a college student and had no clue that my tags were dead and he literally said:
"I have to give you a ticket today, but I'm not going to have your car towed or anything. I don't even want to give you the ticket but I have to. Just get that taken care of for me, and I won't even show up to court so till be thrown out. Do good with your studies."
And sent me on way from there, I went to court and he indeed didn't show up, the only thing I paid for that day was my parking spot. Now if I had an attitude, smoking in his face, continuing to play my music over him talking, or whatever else that can be seen as disregarding his authority then I would imagine he situation playing out differently in my case.
Another instance, I was going 90 MPH in a 55, I'm a black male driving a fairly nice car, and I'm in a suit. I see a car pulled off to the side but it seemed like an odd location for a State Trooper until I realized it was indeed a State Trooper. Of course he pulls me over and with the notorious reputation for Troopers giving tickets, I was prepared to receive one and I wasn't going to pop off at the mouth because I knew what I did was wrong, yet he let me off with a warning. I guess I'm lucky?
My point is this, I don't think this cop was seeking for this to escalate into anything more than a warning yet with her already having an attitude caused things to escalate yet he should've maintained his professionalism for the cost of his own life and for Ms. Bland's as well.
I'm sorry this is hard to believe. Once maybe but twice? No way a black man can run into two non racist cops in Amerikkka.
Meh, as a half black and white dude, my personal experience is that cops are usually kind and understanding to me. Perhaps Im lucky and the cops Ive run into have been good..
But in my experience, youre treated the way you treat. Cops are just people.
Ive been told to get out of cars by cops for bull**** too. You know, I once drove 10 ft without my lights on at night in a lit parking lot and got ticketted too. I paid the ticket, went to court, aired my grievances, and continued with my life.
Life is way too short to let some bull**** effect you. You want my $150 for bull****? Fine, cop, but it comes with when I am in need of some help, I call you and you show up at my doorstep.
Anyway, in civil society cops are necessary. Its better to just live and let live. Most cops dont really mean any harm. And if anything, just tell the cop you will be discussing the situation with a lawyer. They back down quick then.
I dont know how my fellow people of color get into these situations. Or maybe Im just lucky and Ive always managed to escape them.
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