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View Poll Results: Who Was More at Fault???
Sandra 32 60.38%
Police 17 32.08%
I can't choose. They are exactly equally at fault. 4 7.55%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-22-2015, 02:34 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
Ridiculous accusation. At 16:18 you hear him say it was at least on video. He thought it was on camera. You all making up your own narrative doesn't make it correct.
It was clever to pretend he thought he was being recorded. Like, would I be so stupid as to behave that way if I were being filmed? I.e. I did nothing wrong because I thought I was being recorded and expected others to see it.

I bet cops have their established ways of getting around regulations. Just like they tend to cover each other in the case of accusations. It is like a pretty closed society of paranoid and self-righteous people living on the taxpayer's money.

I don't like and trust cops, I avoid them like I avoid criminals...

 
Old 07-22-2015, 02:39 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Originally Posted by BigDGeek View Post
Three different cops, actually.
that makes the comparison three times worse
 
Old 07-22-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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Calm down, no need to get your knickers in a twist. Overuse of emoticons, petty insults, ellipses abuse, grammatical and spelling errors, etc. generally give the impression of an uneducated person.

Overuse of Emoticons: Check (I love them)

Petty insults: No (not allowed); indirect insult yes. Doesn't mean lack of education, more so poor exhibition of decorum.

Ellipses abuse: I like to inform the reader when I am pausing in thought (exhaling) due to disappointment in their ability to be rational. Again, doesn't denote lack of education, but preference in expression.

Grammatical and spelling errors: Of course. I don't have the time to proof read, and I am not a typing specialist. Spelling and Grammar is the last marker I look for to test/question one's intellectual capacity. I look for the content of their post, although I do not discount writing. Common grammatical and spelling errors are components of writing I don't hold against posters, unless it is truly horrific.


Now back to your post. You said generally it displays a lack of education, I accept that, but to pretend that my post had no substance nor conclusions based on applicable evidence and or thought, is utterly ridiculous.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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It was clever to pretend he thought he was being recorded. Like, would I be so stupid as to behave that way if I were being filmed? I.e. I did nothing wrong because I thought I was being recorded and expected others to see it.

I bet cops have their established ways of getting around regulations. Just like they tend to cover each other in the case of accusations. It is like a pretty closed society of paranoid and self-righteous people living on the taxpayer's money.

I don't like and trust cops, I avoid them like I avoid criminals...
Don't quit your day job. You won't be making Detective any time soon. Or ever.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 02:57 PM
 
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Here are a few tips:

1. There is a little lever on your steering wheel. It is called a "turning signal." When you move to the next lane, press this lever. The blinking light will illuminate on your dash board. Now you move to your next lane....

2. When a police officer tells you to put your cigarette out, he means "put your cigarette out."

3. When a police officer tells you to step out of the car, that means, "step out of your car."

4. When a police officer tells you to put your cell phone down, that means "put your cell phone down"..

5. When you kick an officer, you are going to jail.

(Often-times, this lane movement without signaling, is considered a "warning ticket" (verbal or written) which the officer told her he would have "warned her" instead of ticketing her. She disobeyed multiple commands. He now has the choice of a written ticket or warning. When you kick an officer, you are going to jail. That is where he took her.

Nobody killed her in jail.

Her own mental instability, fear of cops, extreme disrespectful, rude behavior towards law enforcement and her videos she posted about her depression on you tube, are leading indicators of what ended her life in jail.
Police State?
 
Old 07-22-2015, 03:00 PM
 
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That doesn't make any sense at all. A cop has no authority to ask a person to stop performing a legal activity because they are worried about "what ifs". Using that same logic, a motorist should be able to demand that a cop leave his gun in the car just in case he goes into a rage and decides to shoot someone. Which is far more likely to happen than someone burning a cop with a cigarette while sitting in their own car. The cop was acting like a complete jerk and making demands he had no right to make.
But a woman smoking a cigarette might be more lethal than a trained gun man with a taser and loaded gun.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 03:12 PM
 
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But a woman smoking a cigarette might be more lethal than a trained gun man with a taser and loaded gun.
To a police state apologist, it is. Just like they claim that it is better to shoot unarmed black teens or cocker spaniels rather than have an officer actually use their brains and do their jobs without resorting to acting like gang members during an initiation ritual.

They act like putting up with abusive cops on a power trip willing to use physical force as revenge against perceived disrespect is the price we must pay for living in the United States.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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Well the "officer" is on audio talking on the phone to his supervisor, saying he asked her out of the car to sign the ticket (dash come does not collaborate this).

In the dashcam video he asks her two questions

1. Q: You seem agitated?
A: Yes, I was moving over for somebody to pass and got pulled over.

2. Q: Could you put off the cigarette
A: No, I can smoke in my car

I think the the "office" feels he is being challenged by someone who should never question him..She should know her place, and the situation escalates from a simple traffic ticket to death.

I would trust the "officers" to come up with a version that white people will accept, and a version they can use in barbecues, bars, the office or even forums such as this.

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Old 07-22-2015, 03:25 PM
 
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Well the "officer" is on audio talking on the phone to his supervisor, saying he asked her out of the car to sign the ticket (dash come does not collaborate this).

In the dashcam video he asks her two questions

1. Q: You seem agitated?
A: Yes, I was moving over for somebody to pass and got pulled over.

2. Q: Could you put off the cigarette
A: No, I can smoke in my car

Then the officer feels he is being challenged by someone who should never question him..She should know her place, and the situation escalates from a simple traffic ticket to death.

I would trust the "officers" to come up with version that white people will accept, and a version they can use in barbecues, bars, the office or even forums such as this.
The sad and scary thing is that if she had simply refused to speak to the cop as is her right to do under the 5th Amendment, he would have still dragged her out of the car and beat her up. And many posters here would applaud him for doing it, since she was getting all uppity and acting like she had rights or something.
 
Old 07-22-2015, 03:29 PM
 
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It's disgusting.

How anyone can defend the actions of this subhuman PIG, is incomprehensible. He was on a power trip, and was instigating the situation, especially when he asked her "what was wrong?" "You seem irritated", etc.

He did not follow protocol and actually has only been on the force for a year.

Cops are extortionists really-traffic and drug crimes is where they make the money for the state and system. They are pawns, and too dumb and power hungry to realize it.

The young lady was not from Texas, and the Cop did a U-Turn, probably when he realized the car was from out of state. She thought he was passing her to attend to an emergency, and quickly moved out of the fast lane (without using her turn signal). She should have known, Cops rarely attend to real emergencies, and are mostly there to harass and extort from non-violent non-threatening citizens. Put simply, most are Pussys.

He never told her why she was being detained. She had every right to record the interaction, and yes to smoke a cigarette in her car.

I hope this "Police Officer" has a long, painful, sad and poor life.
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There is no legal obligation to stop smoking in your own car. There is no legal obligation to not be agitated. There is no legal obligation to be respectful.
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Originally Posted by BigDGeek View Post
Watching that video made my heart ache and my eyes sting.

Her initial reaction to being pulled over reminds me of how I sassed police officers in my early 20s when my lead foot got me pulled over a few times.

Never once was I ordered to extinguish my cigarette. Never once was I ordered out of my vehicle. Never once was I threatened with arrest.

She behaved the same way I did when I was pulled over, but she got hauled off to jail. I didn't.

The difference is that I'm white.
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Originally Posted by newtoks View Post
The sad and scary thing is that if she had simply refused to speak to the cop as is her right to do under the 5th Amendment, he would have still dragged her out of the car and beat her up. And many posters here would applaud him for doing it, since she was getting all uppity and acting like she had rights or something.
Yes, she did not seem to know her "place". You do know without any video, they could have come up with anything about the traffic stop. I would like to see an unedited video in the Station.
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