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The facts are on my side. Have you ever looked at gun statistics in America? Maybe studies on whether or not they actually make one safe? Then maybe thought to compare to every other developed nation on the planet? Pro-gun attitides in this country are what I consider a mental illness.
You are entitled under the constitution to bear arms, I am not denying that. But to think that the rate of ownership today, and the type of weapons available are what the founding fathers envisioned, is ludicrous to say the least.
The founding fathers envisioned citizens able to stand up to a nations army. People could own warships back then. By comparison, modern firearms individuals can own are totally inadequate to that purpose.
I love it when the gun grabbers use the term, "stats".
When I hear or read that, I think of the "stats" that Hillary Clinton fabricated during a speech down south of the border a few years ago. You remember that's speach, Mag? You know, the speach where she claimed 90 something percent of guns found at Crime scenes in Mexico had come from the U.S.? You know, the fabricated stats that were very quickly proven to be complete bull****? When those fake "stats" didn't accomplish what had been hoped for, Obama, holder, Clinton and ATF hatched up a new plan to fabricat "stats" to fit their agenda. Do you remember what that plan was, Mag? You know, the plan where thousands of guns were deliberately sold to straw purchasers, at the direction of the ATF, to purposely flood those guns into Mexico? Why did they want all those guns going into Mexico? So they could fabricate some new "stats" to further push their gun grabbing agenda. Remember Fast and Furious? Remember how that plan blew up in their faces when Brian Terry was murdered with on of those guns that was deliberately allowed into Mexico by our own federal government?
Please tell us, Mag. What type of weapons did the founding fathers envision when they wrote that pesky 2nd amendment into the Bill of Rights?
BTW. Anti-gun attitudes from foreigners who come to our country are what I consider a mental illness.
BTW. Anti-gun attitudes from foreigners who come to our country are what I consider a mental illness.
Probably that's what Trump was mentioning that all criminals and sick people are crossing into our border. Since all the rest of us are natives and living here for centuries, let us all continue with shooting scorn at them while relishing the thought of owning and maintaining a ballistic missile in our backyard.
The Government's latest crime figures were condemned as "truly terrible" by the Tories today as it emerged that gun crime in England and Wales soared by 35% last year.
Criminals used handguns in 46% more offences, Home Office statistics revealed.
seems like you have failed on this one my friend, try again.
It seems like everywhere I look and see, I'm being pressured to buy a gun...not just one gun, multiple ones. Gun shows all over the place, advertisements in newspapers and magazines, and non-stop talk about guns on TV and the radio.
It's like American culture expects me to be carrying around a gun 24/7, and that if I don't own multiple firearms, I'm somehow a second class citizen. Anyone else tired of this?
Your Post is non factual at all. No one is pressuring you and one does not see Colt firearms commercial on regular prime time cable or TV of that matter. Carry a firearm and or owning one is up to the citizen. However there is many that believe that the police cannot be there in time the first 8 minutes of a crime in a home invasion or a break in.
the guns shows that you see is not every weekend and it is not like comparing it to Mall shopping. on your premise we can say Americans are tired of seeing Ann Taylor Stores or Nine West Shoe shoes.
Many like Hunting and sport shooting at the range. I think that is a bigger issue to because of the concept of controlling citizens under Socialist or Marxist style Gov.
Oh the horror of seeing one more set of 6 in spike heels! The Pressure!
The only person that is making you feel like a second class citizen is you , get over it!
The facts are on my side. Have you ever looked at gun statistics in America? Maybe studies on whether or not they actually make one safe? Then maybe thought to compare to every other developed nation on the planet? Pro-gun attitides in this country are what I consider a mental illness.
You are entitled under the constitution to bear arms, I am not denying that. But to think that the rate of ownership today, and the type of weapons available are what the founding fathers envisioned, is ludicrous to say the least.
Wait just a sec, here...what "facts" are you referring to? Statistics are NOT facts. They are theoretical numbers. Mathematical formulas, cooked up using numbers, who's values are questionable, at best. And yes, that goes for ANY "statistic", whether it supports my position , or not. Thats why I don't cite them in discussions like this. For this particular issue, my own experiences, firsthand knowledge, and actual case history, is sufficient.
Now, as a citizen of the UK, from my house, that means your opinion doesn't count for anything, as to American rights to firearms. The UK gave up its citizens rights to arms, long ago, that doesn't mean the US should follow suit. You guys tried that when you were our landlords. How'd that go, again? . Through our entire history, US citizens have used the same firearms our military does. That is proper , for citizens of a free nation. The reasons for an armed citizenry, that existed during our founding, still exist today. We cannot be dependent on our police and military, to defend us, or protect us, when need arises.
In much of the country, response time for police is just to long. Even in urban areas. With the latter, many neighborhoods have been taken over by criminal gangs, because the honest citizens HAVE been disarmed, and they are under the boots of the thugs. Sure, call the cops. When they can't HD, or even arrest the bad guys, and they burn down your house for calling the police, that's OK. Because you're safer, for not having a gun. I'm sure many folks are comforted by that, when an SUV full of armed bangers rolls up on their house because they dared call the police.
Call me silly, but, I would find my AR more comforting, in such a situation. Alas, this is not an option for the honest folks , who have to live in gang areas, that wouldn't be "gang areas", if they did have the option of self/community defense. And please, don't give me that driv, about the police being better qualified to take on said defense. They don't live there, its a job, not a life, to them, and waiting on them to show up, if one even gets through on 911, isn't going to save any lives. Coued with the fact that the bad guys WILL be armed, regardless of laws that deny them that, where the common sense is, shines through, in an obvious manner.
This is the US. We live here. Our right to defend our homes and communities is being chipped away. The aces it has been taken, are proof of what that does. Tyranny does not just come from oppressive government. Think about that , before judging us.
I am from the UK. All the countries you listed, well, are all countries that have the tough laws I speak of and yet hardly any gun crime. Go figure..
Just curious, if your methodology is correct why is this idiocracy popping up in the UK ? Because you know, if firearms are banned there will be no more violence. Oh wait, there will be no more gun violence since your focus seems to be against guns without really caring about getting the violent criminals off the streets.
Wow, look at that 90,000 knives turned in and crime didn't drop... What does that tell you ?
Open your eyes and mind and see this for what it is. You can't fix problems with short term solutions, you have to go after the root cause. It's just logic, take your emotion out of it.
Wait just a sec, here...what "facts" are you referring to? Statistics are NOT facts. They are theoretical numbers. Mathematical formulas, cooked up using numbers, who's values are questionable, at best. And yes, that goes for ANY "statistic", whether it supports my position , or not. Thats why I don't cite them in discussions like this. For this particular issue, my own experiences, firsthand knowledge, and actual case history, is sufficient.
Now, as a citizen of the UK, from my house, that means your opinion doesn't count for anything, as to American rights to firearms. The UK gave up its citizens rights to arms, long ago, that doesn't mean the US should follow suit. You guys tried that when you were our landlords. How'd that go, again? . Through our entire history, US citizens have used the same firearms our military does. That is proper , for citizens of a free nation. The reasons for an armed citizenry, that existed during our founding, still exist today. We cannot be dependent on our police and military, to defend us, or protect us, when need arises.
In much of the country, response time for police is just to long. Even in urban areas. With the latter, many neighborhoods have been taken over by criminal gangs, because the honest citizens HAVE been disarmed, and they are under the boots of the thugs. Sure, call the cops. When they can't HD, or even arrest the bad guys, and they burn down your house for calling the police, that's OK. Because you're safer, for not having a gun. I'm sure many folks are comforted by that, when an SUV full of armed bangers rolls up on their house because they dared call the police.
Call me silly, but, I would find my AR more comforting, in such a situation. Alas, this is not an option for the honest folks , who have to live in gang areas, that wouldn't be "gang areas", if they did have the option of self/community defense. And please, don't give me that driv, about the police being better qualified to take on said defense. They don't live there, its a job, not a life, to them, and waiting on them to show up, if one even gets through on 911, isn't going to save any lives. Coued with the fact that the bad guys WILL be armed, regardless of laws that deny them that, where the common sense is, shines through, in an obvious manner.
This is the US. We live here. Our right to defend our homes and communities is being chipped away. The aces it has been taken, are proof of what that does. Tyranny does not just come from oppressive government. Think about that , before judging us.
Every once in a while you post with reasoned restraint and logic without resorting to hyperbole and silliness.
This was one of those posts that no one can dispute the gravitas contained.
Just curious, if your methodology is correct why is this idiocracy popping up in the UK ? Because you know, if firearms are banned there will be no more violence. Oh wait, there will be no more gun violence since your focus seems to be against guns without really caring about getting the violent criminals off the streets.
Wow, look at that 90,000 knives turned in and crime didn't drop... What does that tell you ?
Open your eyes and mind and see this for what it is. You can't fix problems with short term solutions, you have to go after the root cause. It's just logic, take your emotion out of it.
Yea......first it was handguns, then rifles, then shotguns, now its knives. A common implement, found in every kitchen in the world, laying alongside every plate, and in the UK, ...what? Find something else to cut your steak with? Scissors? Oh...those are next to go. I guess folks can just grab and tear with their teeth, until they can't be trusted with those either. Teeth are deadly weapons, after all. And the silliness marches on.
And to think, we actually got our beef eating tradition from the English. Though a steak that can be cut with a fork, is a highly desirable thing, alas, not all cuts are so tender. I suppose, Filet Mignon' will be all thats allowed to be consumed then? I'm afraid I would still prefer a top sirloin, at times. Thankfully, we still have a choice here.
Actually, the ones who have no idea are the ones who claim that guns equal safety, or that having a gun makes one safe. The only thing that will change America's culture is a radical change in law. An all out ban on most guns combined with an intrusive background check, health history assessment and strong regulation is the way forward. The 2nd A would be repealed and replaced, tons of anti-gun commercials (like smoking) would also be part of the plan, along with hefty sentences for anyone in violation .
Yeah. Good luck with that. Are you going to be one of those going door to door to collect guns from people? I know several hard working, law abiding citizens who have made it very clear that should the government come to their door to confiscate their guns, that they'd give them back... one bullet at a time! The irony here is that those who would come to confiscate the guns would have....get this....GUNS! If you honestly think things are out of control now, then you haven't seen anything yet from what a massive gun grab would cause. Are you ready for that type of unrest? Your solution is not a realistic, nor safe! Furthermore, there is a reason why the 2nd Amendment was created. Take away that, and you can kiss the rest of the Bill of Rights goodbye! Or did you honestly think that a government who would even consider repealing the 2nd would allow you to keep your other Constitutional rights?
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. Through our entire history, US citizens have used the same firearms our military does. That is proper , for citizens of a free nation. The reasons for an armed citizenry, that existed during our founding, still exist today. We cannot be dependent on our police and military, to defend us, or protect us, when need arises. 
